Although gun skill is one of the main factors to being a good player and also map knowledge, another important factors that Bungie messed up in D2 is movement. For me crucible was ruined when bungie decided to nerf how fast characters could skate/jump. Each class in D1 had a unique jump/skating play style that to this day not many people knew how to master, for titans, the continuous skating after the shoulder charge animation, for warlocks the incredibly fast bunny hopping and hunters with bones and knowing when to jump to give the extra speed boost when under ceilings/roofs. In D2 all these were nerfed, there is no more skill for movement, everyone can do it. And by movement i don’t mean doing that extra button layout glitch people do for warlock snap skating. It was purely skill knowing exactly when to press and hold the jump button. As you can see the destiny competetive scene is dead, and people blamed it on the fact that no one uses primaries anymore and its all abilities. Well so was D1 and how come the skill gap was soo much more noticeable, good players would hardly die to trashcans, cuz they had the skill of “movement”, and if you were actually good you could 3 tap anyone apeing at you with a shottie even with the fast movement they had. I dont get why 3 tapping is not an option anymore 2 head 1 body. Why make it harder to kill with primaries even with this new checkmate bs. In D2 i can say for a fact that the skill gap is just not there. I watch people on twitch and they are all average even the top players, no one has their own unique play style anymore, bcuz you just cant with all these nerfs. I remember people going off getting multiple kills and baiting the opponent with their movements, now as soon as you get 1 kill you get fuccd by 3 other opponents camping with their primaries, and for some reason bungie decided to go ahead and remove special ammo to give these trashcans even more camping space. Its soo disappointing a game this good with soo much potential and its being ruined by some oldhead 40 year olds that dont even play crucible themselves. For some reason they think its all about pve, where in fact its the exact opposite, and its not just me saying this, just look at twitch. In D1 when people played sweats/pickups they averaged easily 1-2k viewers, now all i see is someone like gernaderjake as the top streamer, with other randies with 200 viewers in the top list of the destiny category, its so sad tbh. search on youtube destiny 1 sweats, and then compare it with todays bullshit. The competitive scene just isn’t there, the skill gap isnt there, and even the hit registration isnt as crispy as D1. All they gotta do is make primaries more powerful, so you can get multiple kills instantly and bring back special ammo, or at least special ammo boxes like in d1 and bring back the OG movements. See how much the game will change by doing these tweaks, instead on focusing on pve -blam!- and giving out new shitty content that dies after 1 week of playing. If they focus on crucible comp scene the game will be soo much bigger than most these games right now that are popping off. Look at Fortnite,R6,CS,COD, which of these are PVE related. Most people will hate me for this, but PVE is just outdated and may be fun for you guys to play with friends but if you want this game to prosper they need to shift and focus on pvp.