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3/17/2024 2:21:13 PM
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Conditional Finality needs a serious nerf

Pure fact of the matter conditional is actually the only shotty ANYONE uses anymore and the fact it can 1 bang any super is absurd. No matter what pvp mode u load into there’s bare minimum 2 per loby any other shotty besides slugs would blank at the range conditional can freeze or ignite u from but with conditional it’s just free kills. Iv compared almost every other shotty to conditional and every single one was out matched
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  • I’d probably drop the damage range. In PvE, the vast majority of your damage is coming from freeze and ignite not the shotgun pellets, and 1m less range on a shotgun is not nearly as big of a deal there. In PvP, this could cut down on some of the extremely long range kills this weapon can get due to its spread pattern without hurting the spread itself (which is what drives the gun in the first place)

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  • Exotics should be disabled for competitive modes. Yeah, I said it.

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    • Yet you use chaperone, a shotgun thats a sniper rifle

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    • It’s fine. Usually they ape into my bubble expecting a free kill, but end up getting suppressed and punched to death

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    • Absolutely this. Apes crutch this thing so hard. Its gotta be fixed. Even with the special changes they can still roll the first 2 rounds with these and then youre playing chase for the rest of the match.

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      • [quote]Pure fact of the matter conditional is actually the only shotty ANYONE uses anymore and the fact it can 1 bang any super is absurd. No matter what pvp mode u load into there’s bare minimum 2 per loby any other shotty besides slugs would blank at the range conditional can freeze or ignite u from but with conditional it’s just free kills. Iv compared almost every other shotty to conditional and every single one was out matched[/quote] It just needs a slight nerf on damage vs supers - it kills them too fast. The reason you see it so much is because of the consistency. But u gotta remember also it is an exotic weapon and to remove freeze/ignite ruins it for pvp and pve

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      • Edited by Guardian,Archon Of Light: 3/19/2024 9:46:27 AM
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        Thats blasphemy , and I don't care for shottys But dare to say that word about a raid exotic I find your lack of faith disturbing, and you must be punished, 10 days of listening to nimbus dialogue on repeat, bro

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      • Literally crazy to ask for the counter to well/bubble to get nerfed, when trials is now Dominion. Until the free objective cap supers get nerfed this is a necessary evil. I play warlock and even I think it’s ridiculous how free a well placed well is.

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      • no need to nerf it,

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      • [quote]Pure fact of the matter conditional is actually the only shotty ANYONE uses anymore and the fact it can 1 bang any super is absurd. No matter what pvp mode u load into there’s bare minimum 2 per loby any other shotty besides slugs would blank at the range conditional can freeze or ignite u from but with conditional it’s just free kills. Iv compared almost every other shotty to conditional and every single one was out matched[/quote] Then auto needs nerf , bubble and well and smg nerf , yeah it because loser like u this game is so downhill. So -blam!- u

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      • We need another bubble and well nerf, then I'd be fine with a CF nerf.

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        • No, it definitely should not be nerfed. It's actually time for it to get its catalyst

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        • Cry more. It's a raid exotic. It should be op.

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        • It's crazy how everyone defends this shotgun (even with Bungie saying it's hitting outside its intended Range) yet they CONVENIENTLY forget that Bastion used to do the same exact thing.

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          • [quote]Pure fact of the matter conditional is actually the only shotty ANYONE uses anymore and the fact it can 1 bang any super is absurd. No matter what pvp mode u load into there’s bare minimum 2 per loby any other shotty besides slugs would blank at the range conditional can freeze or ignite u from but with conditional it’s just free kills. Iv compared almost every other shotty to conditional and every single one was out matched[/quote] Sounds like you aped someone without thinking and got annihilated cause that things range is arms length

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          • Hmm why, if I get a good reason then I will consider it but I will say it’s fine

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          • Only reason it’s over used is because energy slot has some of the best pvp weapons so it pairs great the other reason is it’s the main counter to bubble the super cool down is far faster the most supers and it wins rounds

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          • Not until they nerf well and bubble in pvp. Noooooope.

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            • It's an exotic, it's supposed to outperform the others..

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            • I’ve been using my found verdict all weekend in trials, for the most part it’s been able to compete. Conditional being able to one shot supers has got to go lmao. Shotgun melee a super has always been viable as a last ditch attempt to save yourself, now it’s what people try to do from the start.

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            • Shotguns need a buff. Now that we have the changes to S.P.E.C.I.A.L. let’s give them some range back.

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              • Is that a chaperone I see in your connect slot there?

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              • No! It needs a catalyst that gives you a third arc round that jolts, or void that suppresses. The map this week is small and it is better to use short range weapons. Paired it with drang and it was very nice, except for the times I was in a team with two players spawn camping all the time. 1v3 is not good, so go help your teammates!

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              • I'm sure it's fine and you're just over reacting.

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              • [quote]Pure fact of the matter conditional is actually the only shotty ANYONE uses anymore and the fact it can 1 bang any super is absurd. No matter what pvp mode u load into there’s bare minimum 2 per loby any other shotty besides slugs would blank at the range conditional can freeze or ignite u from but with conditional it’s just free kills. Iv compared almost every other shotty to conditional and every single one was out matched[/quote] In no way does it need a nerf.

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                • It’s not OP. It’s what a raid exotic should be.

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