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2/1/2024 6:22:24 AM
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This game is becoming TOO HARD

I can barely keep up with the pace of this game which seemingly caters towards crackheads, young children, and professional gamers/streamers. I have put in over 2k hours into playing destiny and at age 33 I am nearing the point where I have to call it quits. I cannot deal with endlessly spawning adds, bosses with 14 million HP, and constant nerfs to the toolkit. The more I attempt higher tier content the more I realize that I have been discriminated against by bungie for my age by them adding content that kills me faster than I can react or overwhelming me with endless adds wasting my time killing them and wasting my effort doing mechanics unable to do boss dps properly because ADDS KEEP -blam!- SPAWNING. Soloing a dungeon should be possible for any average player who puts in the time and effort. But let’s say warlords ruin for example it will be impossible for 95% of the playerbase. This is poorly tuned content being sold to everyone as a $20 dungeon key. If I wanted an impossible challenge, that should have been master difficulty solo. But normal itself is impossible enough as it is. As the playerbase shrinks and the game become less accessible and difficult, it is seeming that my best option will be to quit as the game will never be made to challenge me, only to destroy and outright embarrass me. The players who the content is tuned for don’t even want to play the game anymore and are bored every moment they are online, you can see it in their eyes while they stream. Bungie are truly masters and professionals of alienating the newer playerbase and not allowing those players to transition to higher skill levels with well tuned content, to bungie everyone is datto, esoterickk, saltagreppo, etc. so we have to play something more difficult than the entirety of Elden ring to be considered a “paragon” in a dying game with a declining population. The only power fantasy I am fulfilling as a 2 year player with over 2000 hours of playtime, is one of sadness, betrayal, and disappointment in that this game will continue to be -blam!- as long as bungie kisses streamer -blam!-. I’m glad SONY laid off so many of your useless employees and I only hope they purge leadership too for such shitty decision making, and contempt over your playerbase that reaches back to your halo days. Solo dungeons should be for everyone, not just streamers and people who play like a full-time job. Shame on you bungie, I continue to be disappointed by your lack of respect for the the time, money, and love of the playerbase.

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  • Edited by Alfalucard: 2/6/2024 8:08:47 PM
    Preach brother preach!! Destiny 2 decided to make most new content insanely hard to satisfy the unreasonable demands of literal "professional gamers" (as in people who play games for a living) and expexted the rest of us to follow in the footsteps of this elitist minority... I play for fun, not to get stressed out in a legendary dungeon where every critter and it's grandma can one shot me and dodge my bullets like they are all Neo from the Matrix... They chose to please a minority? they can keep that minority as their non-paying customers that they are and lose us regular people who don't mind spending cash sometimes. Bungie chose to be poor, and who am i to tell them to not make dumb desitions that could bankrupt them?

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    • Ironically enough, I’m sure a few streamers will make a video about this thread and call it content 🥴 However I think the “game hard” is a reasonable judgment. But I think the reason why is misunderstood. And no, dungeons are for three players not for one. So if someone goes for the exclusive solo loot (most of the time a bad looking emblem) then they should be a “pinnacle player.” However I’ve notice that there is a severe lack of post end game content to have fun with builds. Yeah that’s right…. Having fun. The only casual grind we have in PvE is still very old strikes. Things like the coil and regular star crossed are meant to be played by everyone but still (mostly) require endgame builds. But lots of my friends are getting bored since the game has 120 days until anything new. We need a *new* and dedicated non-end game and non-power scaled thing to do like eternity, menagerie, and escalation protocol, where I can run a nova warp warlock, 6 shooter goldie, and be a titan ;) and have that power fantasy looter shooter with whatever gun and subclass I want. (With no champions)

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      • Edited by CORPERATE COMMANDER: 2/5/2024 9:17:18 PM
        Agree💯 Bungie fd the game up so bad I literally don't even have the energy to rant on how shiz the game has become they are so out of touch with the average player it's mind numbing

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      • Crikey mate. I'm 66 this year and the games still a hoot...mind you Crack does help..

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        • 37 year-old, here. The game is too hard, because its target market are crack heads and children? What? 😂 If you’re doing worse than either of those groups, that is on you…

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          • Agree we need more fun and space magic… this game is not supposed to be hard it is supposed to be casual fun…

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            • You can tell by the comments who have people who still play this game and who doesn't.. you're right this game caters to streamers and people with no life that have all the gd stuff to make everything easy.. meanwhile us solos get the shaft because everything worth a damn is locked behind content we can't do.. i have almost 8k hrs in d1.. i have less than 2k in this game and most of that is probably idle lmao.. if this game didn't constantly move the bar away from solos it would definitely be more fun.. hell even 3 man would be drastically more fun and easy to achieve.. in all the people on my list nobody plays d2 anymore so i simply just can't do stuff and i will not use that built in lfg crap 🙄🙄.. I'm all set

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              The unfortunate part is the knee-jerk defense that so many people will levy against complaints like this which only indulges and reinforces their design process. I hate how Bungie's difficulty philosophy is "overwhelm the player", wherein I can't point out one activity that isn't balancing 30 spinning plates at once.

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              • i’ve noticed that actually informing bungie through the forums about this issue will get you nowhere. just don’t buy anymore stuff from them and if you absolutely want to speak just put down the game and pick up another game you enjoy. and all the people that say “skill issue” are same people that used 3rd party devices and are now using “ds4” or adding macros to their input devices so they can do 19 things when you can only do one or two things. remaining silent and saving your money speaks so much louder...

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                • I agree with pretty much everything you said besides the dungeon part. I'm mainly a pvp player and I would say an average pve player and I've solo flawlessed a couple of the dungeons. But they are meant to be a challenge while I will admit warlords ruin is imo pretty hard to solo flaw not everyone should be able to do it. If you make all the high end content too easy it won't feel that rewarding as it should. But that's just my opinion.

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                • Solo dungeons are meant to be at top 10% achievable you will need to play meta. it will take a long time. Keep trying. Get good. Good luck. Look imma agree and disagree with you at the same time. The content you are commenting isn’t supposed to be avg normal. Dungeons normally run with three. That why soloing a dungeon is like GM+ difficulty. I agree there needs to be a more open work up to get gear and skills to pay those bills. You are not at that level or prepared to run solo dungeons yet. It takes time. This is a looter shooter getting mad that the way Loot drops isn’t effectively progressing you in your play time to reach the next teir of difficulty. That I can agree with. But don’t hate that difficult content is difficult. you look at those streamers and what makes you think using their builds will automatically play like them. I’ve only been able to solo dungeons to the 2nd and final bosses before I fail due to my personal time requirements and stress. I tell you what every time I’m getting faster. It’s a long progression thing take your time breaks and stuff but don’t hate difficulty for being hard when it’s supposed to be.

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                • I've been saying the same for a long time now. We need new players and casuals to have a place in this game, to try, enjoy what they see and stay. There should be stuff for everyone. Bring the floor down, raise the ceiling. The game lives now on veteran players carrying everyone else. It is tedious for everyone included.

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                  • Edited by Shaxx: 2/1/2024 6:14:48 PM
                    HoW DaRe YoU nOt FiNd tHiS gAmE EsAy LiKe Me......SKiLl IsSuE!!!!!!

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                    • Post your diary elsewhere

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                    • I have a decade on you and I see no age disadvantage. You're just being a victim.

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                      • Bro nobody here cares about you or how hard the game is for you. Get a therapist!

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                        • Edited by Kildozer666: 2/3/2024 7:48:17 PM
                          Completely disagree. I think the only improvements to this franchise since TWQ has been Bungie rolling back power creep, making the game challenging again, and removing all the super casual BS. The games content has been super shallow and lacking since S17, but in terms of game play the game feels more like it did back between D1-Forsaken. A lot of vets of this franchise are enjoying its current state of difficulty and I agree with it.

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                          • Yes the nerfs are really a pain in the -blam!- ... instead of making content harder bungie nerfed the he'll out of our guardians. Lot of casual players already left what a pity

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                          • It's not so much the difficulty that bugs me, it's the tedious time sink. Everything is designed to just keep you playing the same content over and over again. Legendary lost sectors don't drop exotics so you have to run them again and again, minimal checkpoints in dungeons that clear at the weekly reset forcing you to start over again, it makes it difficult to play for short periods and then do other things, it demands longer play sessions.

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                            • This thread is a perfect example of why nobody like bootstrapping boomers and -blam!- who think anyone who complains is like their “wife or daughter”. You can’t have discussions in the destiny community because of -blam!- talking gate keeping forever players with questionable morals.

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                              • Soloing a dungeon should be possible for any average player? R u serious pal? What do u want next? Lighthouse for 1 ToO victory. Get a grip buddy. If soloing a dungeon is too easy, how can you feel good about it when you've done it. Soloing a dungeon is meant to be a challenge and any decent game of D2's kind would have activities and rewards that separate the best from the rest. It's called competition. You want to be among the best? Prove it. My Karate instructor taught me the best 4-word expression I've heard in my life - 'winners train, losers complain'

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                                • #skillissue

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                                • I'm 36 with a full time job and full time girlfriend! I have 10k hours in the game. I'm doing just fine. Make some builds dude! I'm having fun with necrotic grips and weapons of sorrow making tangles. Grappling to tangles to move around fast. It's fun! It's not bungie. It's you.

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                                • Although I do agree that some of the difficulty changes are silly, your particular complaints are dumb as hell. I'm 34 years old, and I'm at work 10+ hours a day. You don't need to solo a dungeon for anything relevant. Dungeon solo is of of the end game challenges that Bungie plans for with no real reward. If you're quitting the game because soloing a dungeon is to hard for you, then that's a you problem, not a game problem. If soloing a dungeon is too hard, just don't do it.

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                                  • I ain't reading that. But I'm happy for you Or I'm sorry that it happened.

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                                  • [u]HELP YOURSELF[/u]

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