The change is so small you wont even notice, not the end of the world.

They usually nerf weapons based off: usage numbers, archetype outliers, player sentiment (net fun) Sandbox devs have discussed why they choose to nerf certain weapons on few podcast interviews in the past (Destiny Massive Breakdown, Firing Range [DCP]) if you want a more in-depth explanation. I’d hazard it was a mix of high usage numbers and Thorn being too good (in their opinion) compared to other 140 HCs. Hope this helps 👍

Somebody at Bungie must love Smgs and Bows lmao

Probably because everyone where using it

You think thats bad, wait for the Polaris nerf, strand nerf, wish keeper nerf, dragons breath, scatter signal nerf, solar nerf. Any meta weapons we used this season

Ikr ? Handcanons cant be good anymore. Meanwhile smg's....

Because it was fun and Bungie nerfs fun from D2. Ie supers, exotics abilities even the yearly snowball fights we had in the tower all removed. Sad .

It’s not over power bungie has stated that they nerf on these 3 subjects; powercreep ( a weapon so strong there other options don’t make sence) Overpowered (a weapon or exotic so strong it it takes over the meta) Over use ( a weapon popularity the numbers of ppl using it to get kills ) the last one is happed to thorn the use rate shot true the roof because of a catalyst so they nerfed it.

Usage Usage dictates a lot of the balancing and when usage is so high they do get nerfs. It’s not the only reason and they will have more data than us but this is definitely the case. Bows have relatively low usage and bow swapping can be done with only a few weapons - it did get nerfed already and will likely happen again but usage dictates it’s not high on the agenda

I could understand the range nerf, they should have left the stability buff alone.

The Thorn catalyst was strong. It is still strong. Thankfully other Hand Cannons have been left alone as Thorn jumped up in use. Specifically 140s when they ultimately decided to nerf it. Even if they now know 140s should be the baseline, they still relent to whiners. People that demand AE or stability nerfs to slide. Design choices that make the game feel like a worse version of itself. Thorn mains will still use it and enjoy extra range and stability. Even more so after a kill. And others will come off it. If people are allowed to complain and you nerf HC, Autos and Subs will be the game and the game will truly be dead. Certain legendaries have more range, but Thorn demands an aggressive play style where you balance the risk of getting the Soul Remnant and using it to push for the exotic effect or you don't take advantage of it. You also burn people and stop regen while seeing said damage tic. Ace is also strong. Momento Mori can't be pocketed anymore, but it's still a 140 rpm with 90 damage precision shots. You have to have decently high resil to not get 2 head one bodied by these things. It is a contender for the same slot. And in some game types the superior choice. Hawkmoon will eventually be custom. Craftable. I wanted a catalyst that provided a bump to range and stability to make it comparable to modern 140s. I was very excited to hear Bungie relented and went ahead and did it. For that I thank them. We received a [u]massive boost[/u] [b]in addition to overflow.[/b] Was it broken. No. But even if they acknowledged 140s were the desirable baseline I didn't want them to kill HC when it's so commonplace for people to continue to complain. I support a preemptive readjustment and accept 5AE.

Well now I'm glad I grinded out that catalyst. Thanks again for respecting our time investment with your smoldering dumpster-fire of a video game. Gee wiz, I wish I could send BungLe like.... all the moneyz.

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