Fun fact if you listen to your community you'll make more money. If you don't want to make money, let the upper management keep that mindset of eververse and nothing else. Clearly it's not working out for you. Think about it! you fired half your team because you weren't making money on a game with little content because you failed to produce content, you then blamed the community for not paying for eververse stuff and the next dlc.
Why would your community pre-pay for the dlc when you have a bad history of producing nothing for the community. It's like credit and your credibility is almost ruined. The people like me that are sticking around are praying the next DLC is huge for the game.
You're not making money on microtransactions and eververse stuff so maybe just maybe change your childlike business model that people have been doing since the early 2000's. It's not new, fun or liked by anyone. If you produce content you make money, you did that for forsaken and it worked for you, you did that for a couple of other dlc's and it made you money. If you want to make money drop the stupid eververse scam, man up! and do your job with a little ambition or here's an idea nobody thought of? Sell the game to a studio that will actually have some ambition for it and devote all your remaining resources and money you make selling Destiny 2 to Marathon and make that game worth playing and you'll make money on it that you couldn't make on Destiny 2.
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Past caring about D2 and where it's going, nine years of it, it's dying and will happily piss on its grave next year.
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Changing to wannabe Fortnight FOMO seasons was one of the worst decisions ever. This game and the universe it was in had so much potential. Greed and incompetence ruined so much of it.
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People will entitle themselves to real-world fantasy buffets if they are allowed to.
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4 RepliesDestiny prints money. Just Google "Steam 2023 Platinum Earners".
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1 Reply[quote]If you want to make money drop the stupid eververse scam, man up! [/quote] You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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3 Replies[quote]Fun fact if you listen to your community you'll make more money.[/quote]I'm assuming by "listen" you mean "do everything the community asks", & that's literally impossible.
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1 ReplyEdited by Morakx: 1/7/2024 6:08:47 PMThem "listening to the community" means they invite some entitled 24/7 playing streamers who literally never even remotely represent the "community" in any way shape or form, to a "summit" and talk about elitist changes that noone wants. If you want that, nice. Bungie almost never listens to feedback by the vast majority of their playerbase. These fake positive summits give the wrong part of the community, the 0,1 % of elitists, a saying. And we see how well that worked. Their difficulty changes for their beloved content creators scared away a large portion of the casual majority of the community. So yea asking for them to listen to the community is a big ask cosidering their past behavior. And dont tell me that "they can change". We all know that would be lies. Bungie never changed their tactics and their values. But i am all for your suggestion of them selling the franchise. They are clearly done with Destiny. They have zero ambition or passion for it anymore. Sadly even with their absolute ZERO effort strat, they still make way too much money with their reissued "content" they keep reselling to us that it would be a terrible business decision for them to sell Destiny. Would be awesome tho. Cause i know for a fact that destiny is done for in the hands of Bungie. The best times arent ahead. They are in the past.
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The game has become compartmentalized. There is no soul to the game, no immersion. This make the game feel hollow and more like a mobile game. We deserve better from a AAA company like Bungie.
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[quote]Fun fact if you listen to your community you'll make more money. If you don't want to make money, let the upper management keep that mindset of eververse and nothing else. Clearly it's not working out for you. Think about it! you fired half your team because you weren't making money on a game with little content because you failed to produce content, you then blamed the community for not paying for eververse stuff and the next dlc. Why would your community pre-pay for the dlc when you have a bad history of producing nothing for the community. It's like credit and your credibility is almost ruined. The people like me that are sticking around are praying the next DLC is huge for the game. You're not making money on microtransactions and eververse stuff so maybe just maybe change your childlike business model that people have been doing since the early 2000's. It's not new, fun or liked by anyone. If you produce content you make money, you did that for forsaken and it worked for you, you did that for a couple of other dlc's and it made you money. If you want to make money drop the stupid eververse scam, man up! and do your job with a little ambition or here's an idea nobody thought of? Sell the game to a studio that will actually have some ambition for it and devote all your remaining resources and money you make selling Destiny 2 to Marathon and make that game worth playing and you'll make money on it that you couldn't make on Destiny 2.[/quote] Have you read all the post in the community, it’s chaos, the community runs into contradiction on every decision, I’ll be surprised the day the whole community comes together just to agree to something positive out removing something negative on the game. Listening is not going to solve the problem, people stopping will, people changing to the class they think is the strongest will, people using the subclass they think is the strongest will, because Bungie did listen before, but that’s when the community decided to not buy into Bungie’s ideas; Taken King, still in my opinion the best content that Bungie has ever made, there’s still secrets people have not unlocked and now that there is no support, those secrets will remain secrets.
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Ambition, that’s a good word. Bungie does just enough, barely, for us. They don’t shower us with content, they drip feed us, while removing stuff we paid for in the past. Bungie lacks ambition to make the best product, they only have ambition make a profit. Sometimes you have to take a risk, spend a lot, in order to make a lot. Spend a little, make a little.
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Fired half the team? What you on about?
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bungie do not care about this game! cheaters are rampant, yet they fire there security team, they delay dlc and claim it needs to be better, in reality its most likely due to poor pre order sales. mark my words after the final expansion things will get worse.
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Buddy said to listen to the consumer and not the boss.
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 1/6/2024 8:07:59 PMThey had a few goals for this year, namely bringing challenge back to Destiny and returning to the “joy” of the random drop(which meant making less craftable). Add to those those things a bad expansion story, questionable mod changes, ability uptime nerfs, and players continued annoyance with Eververse/microtransactions…. and here we are.
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reminds me how stories of pvp doesnt make money so they put no effort, like the majority of skins people buy are to show off in pvp, i mean its not like fortnite exists
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6 RepliesEdited by sonjalovestyson: 1/6/2024 2:14:01 PM[quote]Think about it! you fired half your team because you weren't making money on a game with little content because you failed to produce content, you then blamed the community for not paying for eververse stuff and the next dlc.[/quote] Ok. I've thought about it. I'm my thoughts... about it, i remember bungie laying off 8% of their team. Was there more lay offs of another 42% of the team? I have no idea about bungie blaming us. Can you provide something that even remotely indicates bungie blaming the players?
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4 Replies[quote]You're not making money on microtransactions and eververse stuff so maybe just maybe change your childlike business model that people have been doing since the early 2000's.[/quote] They are. They are in the top 10-12 of games on Steam that collected the most Revenue of 2023. The Problem is, Bungie isnt putting it back into the Game. D2 is making money, its just after is the problem. once i saw that what i payed for, be it either Silver, Expansion, Dungeon..ect...It was never going back into D2, i stopped buying. The "Silver purchase's are going towards Content like, Dungeons" was a big fat Lie. it was all going into Marathon Development. Bungie gets rich and spends it on C### they dont need. They expanded their HQ..and like..for what Purpose? More Staff". they juts layed off 100 People. Also that 1.7 billion to keep workers, ya, was used to by back Stock. Microsoft was right about Bungie, They Burn through Cash to Fast.
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Not half their team it was about 8%
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Considering they stopped making armor because nobody wants to wear ugly armor they made, don't expect anything and don't spend money