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12/20/2023 7:46:42 AM
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Will There Be A Way To Option Out Of Starcrossed

First off, I am a casual player that mostly plays for the seasonal story and playing missions with my son. I have been playing through the current season and was enjoying the story. Recently though, I was blocked from progressing the story, due to this StarCrossed mission. I accept that I am not the top tier of player on this game and do not aspire to be, and have now [b]wasted[/b] 3 hours or more on this mission. Given that all the other missions of this kind, including the node.avalon one, was not a roadblock/requirement in the season of defiance story -- is there any initiative to shift this step in the progression of Season of the Wish out, and allow it to be optional as all the other exotic missions are? I honestly do not care about the reward that is dropped at the end, and am very dismayed that it looks like I wasted the money on this Season if it is over after 3 weeks. I have no desire to look for a group or engage in random groups, it is tedious enough on Vanguard activities. I prefer to run the capaigns/seasons alone, and hope there is a quality-of-life update planned to shift this step to optional and refrain from injecting this level of mission on the casual story steps. This going uncorrected will likely be the end of my playing the game otherwise, as I do not have a way to circumvent and progress beyond this step otherwise.

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  • Hmmmm.... if only there was some sort of finder that could help you join a fireteam.... too bad there's nothing like that in game.... oh wait....

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  • Idk this mission is easy, i liked it. Had more problems with the dead messenger or whatever that triple element GL was. Just find a group and do it, won't take much time

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  • I somewhat agree. I have no interest in doing it, yet this weekend I'm going to have to do it just to progress the story. Lame.

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    • I'm with you. I've attempted half-hearted, but I am annoyed I'm forced to do this. *sigh*

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      • I am in the same boat, makes me not want to play the game if I can’t advance season story. I only play solo and I am a senior with arthritic hands and slow reflexes so not able to do this exotic quest. It really should not be required to advance story line.

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        • I was able to solo the quest but I agree with the OP. The exotic mission should be separate of the main story line like the other exotic quests. I get the impression that the devs have been increasing the difficulty of all activities, regardless of level. I find myself crutching my lorely splendor build much more than I would like.

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          • Just don't play it. I quit doing crap like this years ago, I am not killing my self or stressing myself, trying to relax and play a damn game.

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          • All these Conquerers saying how easy it is, showing how completely out of touch they are with casual players.

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            • Nathan, use the Team Finder & search for a ‘Normal’ run. I’m very similar to you, I’m an average player & I like to play a lot of Destiny solo, especially the seasonal story missions .. & I did try Starcrossed solo, but I couldn’t kill the boss on my own .. tbh, I kept using the left side for cover, when I should have been using the right side, but I didn’t realise that until I was in a group, so that’s my bad. Anyway, trust me, use the Team Finder, you’ll run through the Starcrossed mission in 20-25 mins with other people, it will be extremely easy .. & you’ll kick yourself at how quick & how easy it was .. but once done, you’re free to continue the storyline. 👍 Other than that, I completely agree with you about the Starcrossed mission blocking the seasonal storyline, there’s absolutely no reason why Starcrossed shouldn’t be an optional side mission.

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            • I found it pretty easy going in blind solo for my first run. It's definitely the easiest and shortest exotic mission we've even gotten. Though I know I'm not an average player. If you desperately need it done just for the story, I'm sure you can find like minded players on Fireteam Finder just to knock it out real quick one evening. And if the final boss is too taxing for you...there are cheeses for it, give those a search.

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            • I would use the fireteam finder and try your best, or reach out to some of the players who make helping posts on here all the time. The mission is easy, which is surprising as I thought the other exotic missions were much more difficult - do not let it deter you from the remainder of the game.

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            • Edited by IcyHorizons: 12/22/2023 11:49:41 AM
              I'm just going to say what everyone else is thinking. You're not forced to do the mission with people. There's no rule of thumb that says "You need to have people to do this mission." You can choose to do the mission alone if you like, or do it with people. It would be just like Season of the Seraph, with Operation Seraph's Shield. You don't NEED to be a top tier player to do anything. Even casual players with minimal exotic weaponry or armor, can do the mission, you're just not going to have an advantage like the rest of us, but that's okay. Just because you "can't" do a certain thing, doesn't mean you should just stop playing the game. That's like quitting your job because you have a little bit of extra stuff pushing you, i.e customers, colleagues or even your boss.

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              • I would expect them to remove it once they get the data they wanted from in game fireteam finder.

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              • As socially averse as I am, I still hopped into the Fireteam Finder and joined two randoms with no mics. We beat the mission in under an hour, only wiping once at the final boss room. I’m not saying this to mock anyone who feels they’re locked out of the seasonal story now, and that completing an exotic mission is beyond their capabilities. I’m saying it’s not nearly as bad as we’re making it out to be, and you too can do it if you make that small effort and push past your own anxiety.

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                • There’s a place for challenging content. That place is not the base level of seasonal content or the seasonal story. The seasonal story and content should be accessible to everyone.

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                  • Yeah, I won't be finishing the story either. I feel cheated. I deleted this game 4 months ago, but I saw Witchqueen and Light Fall were on sale. Got both of them for 18 bucks. So I started again. Then this.... yeah so I won't be finishing the season either. Just the basic stuff. Everything else...don't care.

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                  • Edited by Graystash: 1/2/2024 7:13:08 PM
                    Agreed, I am like you as far as not willing to go out of my way to put a team together (people stop playing games and i am not going through that again) I will say I enjoyed the story but going through the mission solo and with no clue is tedious. it took me 2 hours to get to the boss and I had to give up. The stupid bow that will sit in the vault collecting dust is not worth it, but I still want to progress the season story. It is a shame that this happened as i came back to the game after 2+ years and it is making me remember why i left, wish i didn't buy all the damn expansions I guess the improvements to storytelling suckered me in, same old clueless game devs thinking everyone has hardcore game buddies willing to put up with bs like this. All the people i knew who played this moved on to other games.

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                  • Edited by Oinkthebaconking: 12/20/2023 5:19:08 PM
                    I have to say I have not played the mission yet, however I still agree that in the past year and more I've disapprovingly noticed that the new game director :rolls eyes: has been aggressively making the game worse for solo players. It's a weird goal on his part, really. This is an OLD game and it has a lot of die hard fans, but people are constantly leaving and refusing to come back. People play video games to have fun, and for the majority of gamers it's NOT fun to team up every week and do a checklist of chores that they mostly don't want. "Hey, you need that mission? Cool, I want to do a dungeon and a Nightfall on legendary or Master first and then if we still have time we'll do that." That's not fun. I like to just log on and do a few bounties most days and a seasonal step when I feel like it without being hit up for dungeons, etc constantly. Personally, I don't find dungeons fun. They take too long and I have other stuff I want to do. Plus, I'm getting older and remembering mechanics and the order of many complicated steps is becoming more difficult for me. It really doesn't matter what your reasons are for not teaming up. Any reason is valid. I just accept that I won't be doing raids or dungeons. That's fine, since it's exactly that type of stuff I don't like. Where I get put out is increasing difficulty of seasonal storylines or campaigns to where even a competent solo player like myself finds it frustrating or tedious. The Calus fight in Lightfall is a perfect example of something that just isn't fun. Nobody likes that, and it was widely dissed by the community. But Bungie has a severe disconnect. They just aren't intelligent enough to understand where this game is at within this point of it's lifespan. Seasonal and campaign missions should never, ever be more difficult than a beginner player with basic weapons can complete on normal level. Witch Queen was a great example of the perfect amount of difficulty in both Legend and Normal campaign modes. Lightfall was fine until the Calus Fight. Mainly, the arena was too small to adequately fight Calus and two tormentors. Had it been left open like the first phase then I really doubt it would have been so widely planned.. It was still a terribly stupid campaign and Calus was a Sesame Street caricature of a boss, but again, Bungie just isn't very intelligent as a developer. The most baffling thing is that after a 45% miss on profits, a layoff, and the almost inevitable loss of their studio to Sony coming very soon they STILL refuse to get the basic concept of fun. Dungeons, Raids, Legendary and up Nightfalls. Those are literally the ONLY things in this game that should require a premade fire team. The fire team finder makes no difference in that inescapable truth. I've been having some fun recently farming legendary lost sectors for exotics lately and that's also the type of content that should be as difficult as it is. Master included, but the drop rate in Master is too low for the increased difficulty.

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                    • Lmao

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                    • I just can't be arsed with it. 🤷‍♂️

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                      • It's easy not that hard.

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                      • I soloed it. It was unnecessarily difficult. I basically had to turn my titan into the doom slayer just to get past the final boss.

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                      • Easier suggestion. Open up Fireteam finder. Find a fireteam doing the mission & no mic it or create a post on lfg with your own terms. There will always be Guardians willing to help. 👍

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                      • Edited by Ferus Lux: 12/22/2023 12:38:58 AM
                        Circular Logic/Hatchling+All Strand artifacts+The Wanderer+Mindspun Invocation+Eat da Shackle Grenade=beating the sht out of any non Master and Grandmaster content. The threadlings nuke everything and the swarmer boots let you endlessly cycle threadlings and Suspend balls.

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                      • In the time it took you to make this post, you could have made at least 3 LFG posts titled. "Starcrossed no mic"

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                      • I thought it was well tuned for a solo exotic mission, why not just use fireteam finder on the app or in game for it with a decent build setup

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