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Edited by Alcatraz:
12/1/2023 9:58:27 AM
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My thoughts on the Glaive rework as a Glaive main with 80K PVP kills Lvl 4000 Enigma
Community Feedback - Glaive Rework
Firstly I want to start and say that I and the Glaive community have the utmost respect for the weapons team and that we're no developers nor are we qualified to suggest anything related to the subject of weapon tuning. Many of us have been using Glaives in both PVE/PVP since they first arrived in Witch Queen (we love Glaives), and we feel all that experience means at least something and we want nothing but the best for Glaives and the health of the PVP sandbox as a whole.
The Glaive community has LOVED the Glaive rework and appreciates the dozens of hours of hard work put into this update, but a big chunk of us are having an issue with Glaives and the intended range they are played at and how the primary/melee damage resist change has affected the viability of Glaives and the identity of Glaives in PVP.
The Weapons team has stated before that "Glaives shouldn't be a close range meta" and that the team was aiming for a "mid-range special option for Glaives" and the Glaive community agrees. The Glaive community feels that the nerf to Damage resist against primaries and melee was too much with its current 30%, BUT we also feel that 50% is TOO much Damage resist for the uptime Glaives currently sit at which is why we are requesting for Glaive Primary/melee damage resist to be buffed up to 40%. We feel the survivability against primaries in Glaive range is very low for adaptive and aggressive frame Glaives due to both frames RPMs, especially against weapons like SMGs and autos.
As of now, we feel like the only Glaive that is worth using in PVP is Greasy Luck due to its higher rpm and its potential to compete with primaries like SMGS and autos in its Glaive range. We are also seeing Glaives being in this weird spot where they aren't a close-range option due to Agro Shotty frames + melee killing us and not being a mid-range option due to SMG/autos turning us into Swiss cheese in our range which leaves Glaive in a identity crisis of sorts. Again we are no developers nor are we qualified to suggest weapon tunings but we just wanted our voice heard.
Thank you for taking the time to read the Glaives community feedback
TLDR: The Glaive community feels like the DR nerf to primary and melees put the identity of Glaives in a weird/frustrating spot and we feel a buff to 40% would make them feel better to use without making them a close range meta.
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1 ReplyYou sir, are a man of focus… Commitment…. …and sheer -BLAMING- will…. [spoiler]your also a mad man 🤣, but my hat of to you for your achievements. 🫡[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesEdited by Smity Werbenjagermanjensen: 12/1/2023 4:52:45 AMI trust this guy 100% to balance glaives. Glaive community? He IS the glaive community.
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100%. Not being able to absorb enough damage to get off your shots has been my main frustration with glaives in PvP. I’ve also recently had good luck with the Edge of Concurrence though. I’d also say that glaives could use a little bit of a projectile ammo reserve buff for PvE. Also, have you seen one of the perks on the new Dawning Glaive? Tracking Glaive shots sounds like a pretty fun consistency perk for PvP.
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That is some serious commitment to using glaives; I doff my cap to you. A remarkably well thought out and respectful post, as well. 👍
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3 RepliesEdited by King: 11/30/2023 2:44:12 PMGodd*mn! 😳 I have been enjoying Winterbite with Triton Vice so far this season. Haha
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Thats a really good point.
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I honestly can’t even comprehend how someone can have 80 THOUSAND kills with a glaive in PvE let alone PvP!
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Truly, the Destiny Player of All Time.
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1 ReplyDude, I think you are the glaive community
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Over 80,000 kills in PvP with a Glaive... Hats off!
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There are 2 sides to this. 1. I totally believe this is a genuine request well thought out.. well written. 2. This is a stone-cold pointy stick expert killer asking for the one thing that they need. Just to be safe answer should be with all due respect mr glaive community sir > we will consider your request in future updates (with no intention of ever doing such a thing!). =) with muchos respect rest of PVP community.
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1 ReplyDude thinks he's a whole community 🤣
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8 RepliesThe dr will still be bad even if its at 40 or even 50. In comp or trials or even normal "casual" 6v6 control a glaive player will get dropped by shotty melee or get killed by CF. Let's not forget stasis and strand that can completely stop a glaive user trying to move around to get any kind of kills. Let's say you do mange to avoid all that now you have to face slow movement when shield is up, piss poor DR(so poor depending on the glaive you won't even be able to shoot another shot). after buff/nerf to glaives you can no longer glaive shoot melee kill a guardian anymore even if its a aggressive frame glaive so many times I leave a guardian 1 shot just for me to die cuz the glaive dmg was nerfed the melee was nerfed a while back. Any sort of buff the glaive gets, there is always a nerf that completely negates the buff. Cool a buff to glaives but whats the point when the nerf ruins the whole point of the buff. You can't use it at range cant use it in close combat. Glaives don't work in pvp hate to say it but shotties/snipers/tracerifles/fusions/literally any special weapon that ain't a glaive does the job better in every way. If glaives want to be a viable option then 1. Shield must be able to survive shotty melee. 2. Remove the slow movement when shield is up 3. Either bring glaive dmg back to where it was or melee dmg back to where it was before nerf. 4. Against primaries it has to be able to tank those shots if not whats the point of it being a special weapon. 5. Completely forgot everything above and make glaives take primary ammo with small tweaks so it wouldn't be as strong as bows. The last time glaives were actually good was when it first got released. Strong -blam!- shield but everything about the glaive was garbage. Tbh I prefer that strong shield but hitting shots was a gamble whether it would work or not.
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Glaive community? 😂😂 Bro thinks destiny is actually real life.
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womp womperton
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1 ReplyEdited by Cole Leb: 11/30/2023 9:46:02 PMAre you strictly a Glaive PvP player, or do you have experience with Glaives in PvE? I tried making a build or two after the rework, and I haven't really found much success in PvE. I play Hunter btw, so Triton's are my go-to for the build
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To much glaives Last thing we need is “Stick with sharp thingy at the end” community [spoiler]To much community ngl[/spoiler]
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2 Replies"The glaive community" lmao jfc.
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Edited by Eatz: 11/30/2023 6:51:21 PM“The glaive community” Good Lord
