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11/29/2023 7:02:29 PM
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Checkmate is horrible. It dampens creativity and variability.
Everyone uses a handcannon. This causes people to stand back and just trade blows. Of course, thorn is everyone's new baby, and all the sheep come out, driving up those numbers.
Matchmaking is still pitiful. So many games end up with mercy or people just leaving.
Abilities are destiny, you take them away, and you are left with a garbage version of Cod. You should stick with what made the game so loveable in the first place. It doesn't mean ability spam, but as it is right now, it is boring.
No special ammo, that is just stupid. It goes back to forcing double primary. It's really a stupid idea. All you need to do is heavily drop the special ammo drop rate. Who goes into battle with no ammo in their weapon?
All in all, it was an incredibly disappointing start to the season. I have never wanted to just straight away stop playing at rhe start of a season before.
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I agree that checkmate is a hand cannon simulator
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Agreed. Never wanted to quit as soon as I started. This sucks. I go all in on a game and now I feel like I better start looking for an alternative because the more bungie tinkers the worse it seems to get. Who's advising them?!
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It's nothing but team shooting and no way to counter team shooting. There needs to be a weapon that has reverse serounded that deals exta damage to enemies if they are in close proximity to each other.
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10 RepliesIt’s not even the abilities, or special ammo changes. Those are good. It’s the garbage TTK changes to weapons. The gunplay is slow and boring. Like why use Mida or Jade when they increased the TTK for them.
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Edited by A_mo: 11/30/2023 3:47:15 PMThe catalyst must be range because it doesn't have much without it. I never really used it like at all. So I need the catalyst apparently. Whoops thought this was a different post. Checkmate doesn't have to be for everyone. Just like ability spam with the game doing half of it doesn't have to be for everyone either.
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It's a mode that focuses on fundamentals, which is fine, but also not very exciting to engage with. It's like watching a basketball game where nobody dunks or shoots threes. It's basketball, but where's the spice? The pizzazz? The whoa momma that was slick? It's a game mode for people who's favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla and who only like cheese pizza.
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Yeah I hate it. Just want normal control
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Checkmate is fun as a standalone mode, but it should never replace the main Quickplay node And this comes from someone who actually liked the 2 primary weapon system/meta
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I never played Checkmate before they forced it on us this season, and I do have to say I quite enjoy it. My KD is always some of the highest, and I’ll never complain about using Thorn. However, I do miss the space magic, which is literally the point of Destiny. I also don’t like how long it takes for special ammo, because all it takes is for one person to pop off and get it faster than anyone else, and then they can just shotty ape until their heart’s content. My thoughts for Checkmate: - More ability uptime. Not by a ton, but enough to make classes that don’t have alternate movement options like Icarus, viable. - Special ammo drops on primary weapon kills, and goes directly to your inventory. And that’s pretty much it. Everything else I love, I definitely think that the HC/Thorn meta within Checkmate is not something to be hated, considering normal Quickplay is just Bow/Scout/SMG/Auto Rifle spam. And I also think the special ammo economy in Checkmate is currently better than Quickplay’s, however it can and should be improved. I think that the ammo going directly into your inventory was a great move, because a big problem in Quickplay, is that you can spawn in and there’s just piles of special ammo right next to you, and then you go into your next engagement with 4 Fusion Rifle shots that you did nothing to earn.
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1 ReplyHand cannons are strong but so are bows, smg’s and heck even side arms are pretty good. Get creative, there are a few weapon archetypes that are actually really good. My biggest tip for playing this mode is to take more cover now than normal, peek shooting or aggressive playstyles work just fine. You cant just spam abilities as often which I personally love
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1 Replyyeah i HATE to use primary , let me use cheese roller special guns all the time bungle
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In my opinion checkmate needed time to cook more relic should be pushed out instead
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3 RepliesIt is because people come over from COD and have no idea how to counter abilities in this game. It is to hard for them so their answer is to change quickplay.
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It’s fine. I’ve been using auto rifles all night. No more special and ability spamming. Primary gun kills.
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Edited by A_mo: 11/30/2023 5:12:56 AMSpeaking of which the thorn catalyst has just dropped for me and that gun has always been abominable in my hand even in PvE. That right there is one of the worst that everyone uses and I can't. Luckily checkmate is the best place for just about anyone to learn what somehow be ame the most foundational gun archetype in the game somehow. It's a really good thing that such a wide variety of players have been showing up to play. I'm am literally basking in the glow of the game simply because the pvp was already so close to finished last season. I hope the maps aren't terrible. Control is going to go where it should and the proprietary matchmaking will eventually end up where it belongs to.
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It stops the braindead ability spamming. You still have abilities but now you need to be smart and use a weapon more often.
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Also they balanced everything around HCs so at 10-15 meters, if you challenge a HC user with an smg or sidearm, there is a 50% they will win. This is dumb since at that range, the cqb weapons should win almost every time. I ran into this issue while playing earlier today. Bows have similar issue. If they are 7 resilience or higher you need 2 perfect draw crits to kill them, otherwise they can survive with 5 health.
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Edited by UnleashedArcher: 11/30/2023 2:59:11 AMThe one thing I enjoy the most is how fast you cap the zone tho.....
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Luckily it's not the only option for modes to play and isn't even in the majority of options. It's definitely not perfect, but im glad it's here. Endlessly more fun for me than regular crucible. Options are always good.
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Removing abilities and special weapons is the laziest sandbox Balancing I've ever seen. And making handcannons the only viable option is the opposite of Balancing the game.
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1 ReplySame. Yesterday was awful. Checkmate, Relic or Rift 🤢 Not a good start but hey only 188 more days lol
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Thorn is overrepresented because the cat just came out. May I remind you what the Crucible looked like a week after they added Witherhoard?
