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11/7/2023 2:41:41 AM
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how many people in are the last city
based on the fact the wall is twice the height of the lowest clouds that means you could see 192 miles. you can only see to the center of the city so double the number for how far across the city is. that means the city is 384 miles across. now I know the city is a circle but I don't want to do all that extra math so for the sake of time the city will be a square in my calculations. 384x384 means the city has an area of 147456 square miles. I guess the population density is around the same as Manhattan so 72918 people per square mile. 147456x72918=10,752,196,608.
that means that the last city houses ten billion seven hundred fifty two million one hundred ninety six thousand six hundred and eight people.
Or in scientific notation 1^10.
That means humanity is doing better in destiny then in real life
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IIRC it was figured out then confirmed later that the last city is in Peru. And there is really no reason the population could not be huge and, in fact, probably underground as well given the technology available. There could also be feral populations scattered all over the solar system as well.
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1 ReplyI want more content based in the Last City… I’d love an activity/ storyline that restores the Peacekeepers to their former condition before the Red War.
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1 ReplyEdited by Jet Set Willy: 11/8/2023 12:07:34 AM
Jet Set WillyIt’s all going concording to plan 😂🤣 - old
This is like calculating how many Goomba’s exist in Super Mario 3D World, based on how many are seen in the first 5 minutes then factoring in the height of the finish pole and how cool Peach looks as a cat. -
Saint-14: “We do not come to The Tower to be above humanity, we do so because rendering a lively city environment, unique NPCs, and conversation would make PS4 & Xbones explode”
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2 RepliesBungie is pretty terrible at getting the scale right, it makes for a beautiful skybox though! For example, in Season 19 during the Operation Seraph Shield exotic mission they made the Traveler much appear larger than the Last City (because it was the focus), which going directly back to the Tower you noticed the huge difference of scale. In short, I wouldn't put much weight on the scale of a skybox, especially as the sun looks the same size on Europa/Io (~5 AU) as it did on Titan (~10 AU)
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1 ReplyThere's gotta be at least, like... four.
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Edited by J Noir: 11/7/2023 10:45:37 PM[quote]based on the fact the wall is twice the height of the lowest clouds that means you could see 192 miles. you can only see to the center of the city so double the number for how far across the city is. that means the city is 384 miles across. now I know the city is a circle but I don't want to do all that extra math so for the sake of time the city will be a square in my calculations. 384x384 means the city has an area of 147456 square miles. I guess the population density is around the same as Manhattan so 72918 people per square mile. 147456x72918=10,752,196,608. that means that the last city houses ten billion seven hundred fifty two million one hundred ninety six thousand six hundred and eight people. Or in scientific notation 1^10. That means humanity is doing better in destiny then in real life[/quote] This is up there with flat earth logic. Well done, that must have taken some effort to be that wrong. Or in scientific notation BS.
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3 RepliesThat doesn't seem right... one city is equivalent to significantly more population than all of Earth currently? Looking at the last city, only really the small section in the spot has large buildings. There's also many nonpopulated areas, and craters. Not to mention the massacre (Red War) that killed a huge chunk of population. AND many buildings might be uninhabited due to structural damage. I thinks it's probably less than 5 million.
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Edited by Maskerader: 11/8/2023 3:34:57 AM[quote]based on the fact the wall is twice the height of the lowest clouds that means you could see 192 miles[/quote] Can you explain where you got this number? I assume you took cloud height as 1 mile and then applied a calculation for how far you can see from twice that height. I disagree with this approach. To talk about the height of the clouds we first need to define what clouds we're talking about because they can exist anywhere from almost earth surface level to several kms high. Then, the "how far you can see" formula/approximations are usually only for the Earth curvature, but Earth curvature is not the reason why we don't see the far end of the city. The reason is it just fades into clouds/fog/atmosphere. There are atmospheric visibility charts and for us to be able to see as far as 192 miles, the air needs to be not just exceptionally clean, but pure. The weather isn't even clear in the City, there's some haze in the air, so that brings visibility to something around 2-10 kms. Even applying all the other assumptions that you took, that would bring the estimates to 450k-11m citizens.
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[quote]based on the fact the wall is twice the height of the lowest clouds that means you could see 192 miles. you can only see to the center of the city so double the number for how far across the city is. that means the city is 384 miles across. now I know the city is a circle but I don't want to do all that extra math so for the sake of time the city will be a square in my calculations. 384x384 means the city has an area of 147456 square miles. I guess the population density is around the same as Manhattan so 72918 people per square mile. 147456x72918=10,752,196,608. that means that the last city houses ten billion seven hundred fifty two million one hundred ninety six thousand six hundred and eight people. Or in scientific notation 1^10. That means humanity is doing better in destiny then in real life[/quote] Who the hell cares? I’d thundercrash them all if I could.
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2 RepliesOh my god the concrete urine stench.
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Guardian, Archon Of LightArchon Priest Of House Light - old
I think I heard someone say it was in the millions -
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Idk but I imagine the Red War brought the population down from a bigger number to not a whole lot.
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Did you account foot the damaged areas and the likely need to feed the population? Or the commercial and manufacturing districts? That’s cut the available land for housing by a large percentage. Then there is the average lifespan. Societal changes influencing family size, given the scarcity angle of the City’s history. Remember when the Fallen came in the City? Strained City resources. That tells us they don’t have the resources for surplus production. I would estimate a few million tops.
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