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3/7/2006 2:43:26 AM
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Rabican, Maeldun and (Murgen?)
This was originally posted at [url=http://projectmagma.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=2a95bbb159aa1b1e598ab6602747fbba;act=ST;f=2;t=2094;st=0][b][u]projectmagma.net[/u][/b][/url], but I thought I might post it here to incite some Myth related discussion.
In [url=http://myth.bungie.org/legends/journal/images/pregame/09pre2.GIF][b][u]this[/u][/b][/url] picture, we see three of the nine avatara alive during the Great War. This image is accompanied with this passage:
[quote]The cities of Scales, Covenant and Tyr have all fallen to him in the last three weeks. It seems that too many years of peace have softened the once legendary armies of the West. Rabican, Murgen and Maeldun have been dead sixty years, and today only Alric remains of the great leaders who defeated the Fallen Lords.[/quote]
The obvious conclusion is that Rabican is left, Murgen is in the middle and Maeldun to the right. We know Rabican is indeed left, because of [url=http://myth.bungie.org/legends/journal/images/pregame/10pre5.GIF][b][u]this[/u][/b][/url] picture.
But Maeldun and Murgen are much harder to conclude. Most do believe Maeldun is right because he is not included in any pregame pictures (besides that one) so we can assume the order they're said is correct. Then what about Murgen?
[url=http://myth.bungie.org/legends/images/pregame/ipools1.GIF][b][u]Here[/u][/b][/url] is a picture of Alric, from an unused pregame in TFL. This and the picture of "Murgen" looks strangely the same. Remember that at the end of the passage, it does say:
[quote]... and today only Alric remains of the great leaders who defeated the Fallen Lords.[/quote]
This could be interpreted as Alric being up front and in the middle because he is the more powerful and the last remaining. Then, "Maeldun" could actually be Murgen, and the picture only includes three avatara because Maeldun could not be fit.
Then again, others say this mysterious avatara looks too different to be considered Alric.
BUT then, there's the fact that Rabican and "Maeldun" look very different to Alric. (Sadly, we don't get to see Cu Roi, the only remaining avatara that we know the name of to compare to). Rabican is more melee oriented, and uses armour and a huge ass sword (look at his beefy arms). Then, Maeldun is more elemental and has a suit (pardon the pun) suiting that (staff and the like).
With this in mind, how come "Murgen" looks so much like Alric? Is it because they both fight the same? Is this some "official" avatara clothing? Or is Murgen just lazy?
[i]Or is it Alric?[/i]
-TGP-
[b]PS. I don't claim all these ideas to be my own. A lot were taken from the thread at Projectmagma.[/b]
[Edited on 3/6/2006]
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That does make a lot more sense than the logical order of things. Maybe Juan Ramirez was just told to draw some avatara and got the order wrong, or visa versa. -TGP-
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While the level text lists Rabican, Murgen, and Maeldun in that order, I do not necessarily believe that is proof of which avatara is which. According to GURPS Myth: [quote][Murgen] was a particularly skilled sorcerer, with a knowledge of the Gate college and extraplanar affairs unmatched by any of his colleagues.[/quote] This seems quite true considering that he was able to help the legion escape the Tain. Since Murgen is singled out as having exceptional magical talents, one would assume that he is more likely the avatara on the right holding the staff. All that is really known about Maeldun is that he was extremely stubborn and never yielded to anyone or anything. I doubt one could use that as a basis to discern which avatar is which in the picture, but my guess based on the fundamental traits of each avatara would be that Maeldun, who was the most stalwartly stubborn of the Nine, is the avatara in the middle and Murgen, who is singled out for his magical prowess, is the avatara on the right. On the topic of avatara wearing similar clothing, it is possible that there may be a standard avatara outfit. While any extremely skilled and devoted student of magic may become an archmage, only a select few become avatara. The fact that all avatara had to not only be extremely skilled in magic, but also a master swordsman is proof of a standard set of qualifications for avatara. This may mean that a standard avatara outfit was also specified. In the cases of Rabican and Murgen, we have two avatara who distinctly focus more on one discipline (Rabican on melee combat and Murgen on magic). This may have something to do with why they do not wear similar clothing to Alric. No matter which avatara is which, the similar appearances of the middle avatara and Alric do not mean they are the same "type" of Avatara. According to this excerpt from the Myth TFL manual, no two Avataras have the same magic ability. [quote]The Nine powerful sorcerors who lead the Legion against Balor and the Fallen Lords. Because of their years of training as magic-users and strategists, they tend to avoid melee combat but can be vicious whe they have to be. Each Avatar carried a sword, and knows how to use it. Each Avatar has a unique magic ability. -Avatara Description, Cast of Characters, Myth TFL Manual[/quote]
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Try harder Ghandi! :P -TGP-
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Happy Jack I got myth the fallen lords at the same time I got soulblighter, so due to gameplay Im sticking with playing Soulblighter so I dont know the story from the fallen lords. Am I missing out, and should I go back and play the fallen lords? Sorry to go off topic but its myth after all.[/quote] Most definately, TFL pwns j00. TFL is a bit harder, but that's what lower difficulty levels and slowing down time is for. Back to the topic, I really have no idea TGP. Interesting topic though :)
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Maybe Murgen and Alric are the same "type" of avatara? -Sighs- I wish there was more light shed on the Myth story.
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It would make more sense if you did. And, personally, the single player levels are more fun on TFL (at least for coop they are). -TGP-
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I got myth the fallen lords at the same time I got soulblighter, so due to gameplay Im sticking with playing Soulblighter so I dont know the story from the fallen lords. Am I missing out, and should I go back and play the fallen lords? Sorry to go off topic but its myth after all.
