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10/6/2023 1:21:47 AM
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YAS nerf basically deletes it from the game
The nerf to health is completely warranted. This exotic needed a counter. The nerf to needing kills over damge... why is this even a exotic. Like there is absolutely no longer a reason to run YAS. OKAY so my grenade helps me get one kill.... neat that is literally what EVERY grenade in the game does. That's its literal reason for existing. No one is one shotting with tripmines. Here is a list of other options you can use better than tripmines to one shot: all of them except healing. Jokes aside, you can zone out with tripmines but even then if the other player runs into the trip mine... you still didnt kill them with it. The exotic its still totally useless. Its the damage afterwards. The throw animation alone in a head on fight will get you killed, oh I cleaned up with the kill that's cool I get nothing for it cause I'm dead. I literally have to engage, disengage, grenade and hope they play into the kill THEN get the benefit for the exotic. This is totally stupid and not thought out at all. Exotic is pointless now in all content. PVE? no body is gonna run this outside of the basic strike playlist. Even the enemies patrolling on neomuna live through this.
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[quote]OKAY so my grenade helps me get one kill.... neat that is literally what EVERY grenade in the game does. That's its literal reason for existing. No one is one shotting with tripmines.[/quote] No other grenade could get several people to one-shot (huge AoE, no falloff, high damage, Scorch) with zero risk (no self-damage) and then nearly fully recharge itself if not successfully doing that. Between the recharge from the Exotic, Grenade Kickstart(s) and investment in Discipline, you had this available for every single fight. There is zero debate about the nerf being justified for PvP. In PvE, the levels of ability spam it enabled were on par with Starfire Protocol and Heart of Inmost Light; I don't recall Hunters being particularly sympathetic about those nerfs or speaking against them.
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3 RepliesEdited by Astrosa: 10/7/2023 4:32:48 PMWhy is it bad now? In pvp it’s still good Was getting kills and the full nade back. I know the dmg reduction was nerfed but does that really matter in pve ? Kills needed for it to come back ain’t that bad in pve cause isn’t it an add clear thing
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You clearly don't know how to use tripmines. As such your opinion is invalid
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16 RepliesOh boo hoo where was the outcry from all yall when starfire got nerfed? Yall constantly demand well because yall are too potato to keep your own selves alive but only if you're the only ones allowed to deal damage lmao Hunters have a penchant for justifying every single nerf that [i]doesn't[/i] happen to them and will victimize themselves with a quickness whenever they finally do get their just dessert. It will never not be funny.
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Now it can join Starfire in the dumpster. Can't wait til next year, when they finally make them usable again.
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4 RepliesFunny , i played around 5000 hours , i gilded conquerer for the 7th time a month ago , have 20 seals and have done almost everything the game had and has to offer . But i never used YAS . 🤣🤣🤣 I have never seen a post about it or seen someone using it in a GM , dungeon or a raid ... Maybe at a public event , a patrol zone or a lost sector on normal , yes but that's it . And now people act like the game has died because of an exotic that no-one used but only recently got abused so much in pvp up to a point where it gets nerfed . It just doesn't make sense , if they would have nerfed bakris , omnioculus , celestial nighthawk , star-eater scales , raiden flux , orpheus rig or whatever decent hunter exotic then i would agree with you but young ahamkara spine ??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just play the game and don't act like a crybaby , jezus christ ...
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When bungie nerfs something it Gets completely shattered and Will stay in your vault picking up dust. Simple fix not sure why they did not do this. While the grenade is placed you cannot gain grenade energy. Grenade hits from guardian will offer significantly less regen. (This is similar to how other regen gaining methods work in PvP) Do that and In PvE you will still be able to use them.
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3 RepliesIm really debating not buying final shape. It’s getting ridiculous on the amount of nerfing going on in the game. Why farm anything at all just for bungie to nerf everything
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Now Raiju’s Harness has some company in the land of nerfed into oblivion.
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3 RepliesWelcome to the club, u see how many post are about YAS but us titans literally no post about anteous we just take it
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Yas queen
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2 RepliesEvery-time I see somebody put Yas or YAS instead of spelling it out it makes me want to just go [i]Yaaaaass!!!!!!!!! [/i] every-time. Might just be me. One of my exotics I used has joined the other Hunter exotics, nerfed and put away.
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7 RepliesHunters overreacting like always. Nothing to see here.
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3 RepliesI have never seen this used in pve. Is this some sort of face roll activity build where you guys spam it in heroic strikes? I'm gonna lean towards it being bad players that cheese people in crucible with it pulling the old omggg pvp gets pve nerfed cry fest in an attempt to keep it broken for pvp.
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As a warlock main, I don't get the nerf. Back in D1 it was even more powerful. It could one shot AND it had two charges! Hardly anyone used it too because there was a lot of powerful stuff to pick from. Now in D2, it's even than it was before it got buffed. Bungie has no -blam!- clue what they're doing.
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Oh no you might have to shoot your gun in a fps.
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1 ReplyNerf it more
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[quote]The nerf to health is completely warranted. This exotic needed a counter. The nerf to needing kills over damge... why is this even a exotic. Like there is absolutely no longer a reason to run YAS. OKAY so my grenade helps me get one kill.... neat that is literally what EVERY grenade in the game does. That's its literal reason for existing. No one is one shotting with tripmines. Here is a list of other options you can use better than tripmines to one shot: all of them except healing. Jokes aside, you can zone out with tripmines but even then if the other player runs into the trip mine... you still didnt kill them with it. The exotic its still totally useless. Its the damage afterwards. The throw animation alone in a head on fight will get you killed, oh I cleaned up with the kill that's cool I get nothing for it cause I'm dead. I literally have to engage, disengage, grenade and hope they play into the kill THEN get the benefit for the exotic. This is totally stupid and not thought out at all. Exotic is pointless now in all content. PVE? no body is gonna run this outside of the basic strike playlist. Even the enemies patrolling on neomuna live through this.[/quote] It’s still not going to be easy to destroy one, it just won’t take an entire magazine. All nerfs were warranted in the PvP side.
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Edited by Rainbine 9545: 10/6/2023 8:13:32 PMThis I can agree to, as calibans hand now does what it current can but better with this build Ember of char = scortches on ignitions (one melee kill) Ember of blistering = grenade energy (one melee kill) Ember of ashes = more scorch on a target (one melee kill) Ember of eruption = increase area of effect of ignitions (one melee kill) And ember of torches = radiant on melee hit (one melee) So we just swapped from throwing infinte grenades to basically both infinite knives and grenades
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Most nerfs Bungie does makes items completely useless. Then they wonder why nobody uses those things anymore and go, "We just need to rework them." As if they forgot the things were good at one point. Bungie doesn't do balances. They nerf with murder bats but buff with mosquito bites.
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14 RepliesEdited by KalelKryptonian: 10/6/2023 1:59:10 PMJust like wards and synthoceps for a titan when they don't just nerf but remove a perk altogether. Putting surrounded on a exotic piece of armor is as redundant as a chocolate fireguard considering surrounded is a mod and also found on weapons already.
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players who think the only use of yas was dps LMFAO
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Yeah, idk. I don't use YAS but I feel if it is super fun to the majority of players but doesn't destroy the game completely by being so overpowered it is all people can use, then it is in the right spot already. YAS is an exotic that sees a lot of usage, but not enough to warrant such a drastic nerf, or any nerf, cause most times I inspect people, they are using something else. But then again, I literally read a TWAB where Bungie actually admitted to making changes just to make changes, not cause it was a priority issue. Look at my precious Anarchy. In total it recieved a 30% nerf when it was Anarchy and Slug Shotty meta, but did you know it was buffed 20% then 10% since then? That's 3 changes with the end result being practically where it began. Just leave YAS alone, Bungie, usually if it has decent usage, it's enjoyable for players is why. Stop trying to be the fun police or changing -blam!- just to justify why your position at Bungie is needed on a regular basis.
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2 RepliesIt had a good run.
