I definitely think that nova bombs need help. presently, I think they struggle the most with the fact that they don’t really tactically differentiate well. Both operate in the same niche but neither excel in their current one either. I think vortex needs a slight damage buff and to anchor bosses in its vortex so they can’t move unless another phase is triggered (inverted spire) or their movement is intrinsic to the battle (Riven and Xol). I think Cataclysm needs to move faster and have more tracking projectiles but keep similar current damage so it’s a better overall add clearer.

Well, actually. I just did Atraks today. 2 used Nova, I used Blade Barrage with Star Eaters, one kid used Needlestorm. With Blade Barrage nerf, I was barely doing the most but that's with an insane exotic buff to the super. Nova was doing fine at above 350k. Let me tell you, though. Vortex or the one that lingers. Worst super I ever used on Atraks at a 130kish. I know Atraks teleports, but it had enough time to do the blast, plus some lingering, and it was 1/3rd the other Nova. [b]This happens nonstop, though. Stop feeding into it guys. Infact it is going on 9 years since the day they started this cycle. Back in D1 Year 1 Surous was dominant in Crucible, and hand cannons weren't the best but they were still really good. Bungie, lowered autos by 10%. Which would have perfectly balanced Crucible. But then FOR GOD KNOWS WHY they buffed handcannons by 10%, like they never seen a teeter totter in there life, putting more weight on one end till it balances, then once it balances, throwing more weight on the other. Remember Year 1 Thorn and Last Word? Almost 9 years later they are still buffing and nerfing things either too much, or leaving other things in the dust (EI: Nighthawk, Nova, etc). Why? To justify their positions at the company. If they just simply balanced things and the game was perfect, what would they say once we asked "why are we paying money that is going towards a sandbox team if they haven't made a single change in months?" They are trying to justify their own roles and importance as employees. Ffs I seen in one TWAB a long time ago they low key admitted they buff and nerf things just to "shake up the meta". In context, they were actually saying they purposely make imbalance, just to change the balances. Stop giving them excuses to make endless changes. They buff nova, then it will be either too good, or all supers now are too much and more changes need be done. You think they accidentally made Banner of War good? Or Lorely too much at launch? Or Strand Hunter being the highest DPS by massive amounts, isn't going to suddenly matter later?[/b]

hear me out Skull of Dire Ahamkara rework ACTUAL GRANDEUR [u]Significantly increases the damage of the initial blast from your Nova Bomb.[/u] (or somewhere along those lines) Provides additional damage resistance during Nova Bomb. [b]Hits[/b] and kills with Nova Bomb grants Super Energy [i]kinda giving it the Cuirass and Shards of Galanor treatment. [/i] (shards of galanor needs a buff also btw; maybe something that can enhance knife damage in general or something)

The only exotic that could potentially buff nova bomb if it was buffed would be the skull of ahamkara. Bungie needs to add more than raw damage for me to use it though. One and done exotics have always been trash tier for me even if they give a super 2-3 times more damage. Unless said exotic grants neutral game benefits then I wont be using them. This is why crown of tempest is what I consider the pinnacle of exotics, it buffs both neutral game AND the super.

Warlocks need a cuirass

I believe Cat Nova does approximately the same damage as a Golden Gun with Nighthawk. Both are one-off supers, except the Hunter's costs and Exotic slot to get that damage. If anything, Nighthawk is overdue for a buff in PvE

You mention charged chaos accelerant grenade, but how about before you Nova Bomb them, you charge your grenade, use echo of undermining for the weaken effect and then Nova bomb them. I think Nova is fine but I guess I actually know what i'm doing. Plus it literally did get buffed not long ago.

Warlocks absolutely need an exotic that does for nova what cuirass does for t-crash and celestial does for goldie. Its warlocks big, one off super, and it would complete the element trifecta for this archetype of exotic

Personally, both Nova Bombs should be condensed into one, having the vortex and then smaller ones that shoot out. Instead of being a DPS super, it should also serve as a crowd control super. Mixing both aspects of the super could allow for decent damage but greater area of effect so that you have the flexibility for crowd control. Also opens up the doorway for a third super to maybe focus on support. Plus, if they consolidate the Bomb this way, it would technically boost its damage since the smaller seeking singularities would add additional damage to the vortex one.

The biggest issue is the way the classes are structured. The reason you see supers like Blade Barrage or Gathering Storm doing 400K damage while Nova Bomb does only, what 300K, is due to the titans and warlocks having more ways to keep tanking damage while hunters have to run for their lives. That's my theory as to why hunters deal greater damage. I kill you before you kill me. Remember, that's just a theory.

What's the damage comparison with other 1-off supers without any exotics?

You do realize you're comparing 2 base supers to supers + exotics? By that logic, I could argue that any super is too weak. Nova bomb, mainly cataclysm, isn't in a bad state. I could see a buff for vortex, but mostly it needs a reason to make me want to run it over Cataclysm. Personally I think the vortex should apply a 20% debuff.

was thinking having an exotic that gave nova bomb, the change back to Destiny 1 where it splits into 3-ways.

Do you have all of the artifact mods unlocked? If you look at your artifact mods there's a buff for weapons and abilities use that one. There is a few mods that can buff your abilities.

All base supers should be bumped to 320K minimum then we can talk about adding exotics to bump this further. No super should be doing like 250K or less

The last time I commented on a post of yours I got a two week ban. & were clanmates 🤣🤣 Quit yo crying spider! Please buff novabomb.