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Bungie responds to community outrage

[url=https://twitter.com/joegoroth/status/1691512349398822914?s=46&t=9sJhjFBX5tc_VKqamPoKEQ]Joe Blackburn’s video[/url] For those that don’t want to watch, here’s the summary. [quote] # TFS Showcase / Reveal * The [Aug 22] showcase was recorded a while ago. It's not a reaction to anything in the SOTG or any recent feedback * They are kind of disappointed with the quality of the SOTG article. Joe says this is because they were really and truly working super hard on TFS and just didn't spend enough time on it * Showcase is intended for a wide audience. They know way more people will see that as opposed to people on the subreddit, or even people following him on twitter. In other words, don't expect the showcase to include a bunch of nitty gritty details on new game systems or mechanics * Joe *does* mention there will be a strange coin and Xur revamp coming with TFS... but makes a point to say the showcase won't include information about things like that * A refactor of the HUD (buffs and debuffs) will be coming (again, this is something that won't be in the showcase) * Showcase will focus on the story, location, and touch a bit on how live service might change after TFS * Joe and Dan (GM) will be on-set taking questions and provide clarity # PVP * Focused on sandbox balance and ritual updates * 1 new map, and a few reprises a year has been the approach * "This approach is not producing a crucible that our players expect (of) us" * Next year there will be a single map pack, free for everyone (a few maps, purposely designed with specific strengths in mind for different modes or whatever) * Reiterated details about checkmate and relic modes (see SOTG for more details) * Some new modes they have come up with over the past year or so will be incorporated into the core PvP experience * Comp point reward structure will be changing to "a simpler system where winning or losing just matters more" * Countdown rush going into comp, getting modes that people are less excited about out * Bungie is building out a PvP strike team (this has nothing to do with "strikes", it's more like a concentrated development team for PvP specifically) * PvP strike team will be solely focused on PvP and their development objectives will be largely based on community feedback # Armor * Armor generally falls into 3 categories: Aspirational (raids / dungeons / trials), Narrative (seasonal stuff, ritual stuff), Silver (eververse sets) * Some time last year they decided to shift focus a bit to seasonal and end-game stuff and this was poorly communicated (i.e.: another reason the LF ritual armor set never happened) * An eververse set that was planned for S22 will instead be a ritual reward, free for everyone to earn[/quote] [url=https://reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/s/XvvbXm7Phi]Source[/url]
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  • Joe is a good guy at heart, i really believe that. But even he has next to no influence towards the meaningful and REALLY impactful core changes that would be needed for the game. Why? Because the higher ups are greedy and dictate monetization in every single corner of the game. They put revenue over player enjoyment EVERY SINGLE time. A game director has to manage the devs and allocate resources. Everything that he can decide is meaningless towards our criticism about the game sadly. Higher ups ruined modern gaming. I feel really sorry for Joe that he has to do this damage control because the higher ups smell loss in revenue because of a declining playerbase recently. Such a weird timeline atm, everything is infested with greed. I remember when games were produced to be fun, good times.

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  • Once again. Bungie just uses a scapegoat instead of accepting blame.

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    • Edited by Kouz_MC: 8/16/2023 7:25:46 AM
      Bla bla bla bla bla. The only thing they’re concerned about is to see player numbers at the lowest ever ahead of their big sales day aug 22nd. They’re just afraid not to hit the 1mln pre orders and are willing to BS their way through as usual. They know how critical sending such a message would be: more than 1mln, people will once again be sheep on the upside. And vice versa. So not hitting the million will be very detrimental at least until FS drops.

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      • How about the Eververse crap all gets Dust added to them. That way you have EVERY ITEM purchasable to those that like Silver.. and Purchasable to those who don't, but want the item and can by just playing the game. Simple fix is to add Dust to the reward pool for activities and not just Bright Engrams.. But Bungie will mostly likely go this route .... Add Purchasable DUST.

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      • Sorry TFS is either 50% off. Or..... Watched on YouTube.

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      • In other words. New game Marathon needs moar money so PR hard on Old game.

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        • Gotta get them pre orders. Must have been alarm bells ringing for this type of damage control. PR stunt at its finest

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          Why are people impressed with this? This is hardly what the game needs

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          • Holy damage control gyaaaad daaaaamn

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            • To late I hope final shape flops like holy **it they deserve to suffer a massive blow to there system

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              • Edited by TheShadow: 8/15/2023 10:23:54 PM
                I'm sorry, but all this talk/typing of what "this business is going to do" doesn't mean jack... anymore. Even though Joe is responsible for what takes place to an extent, I feel sorry for the guy having to deal with the BS this business put on him, especially the garbage Luke left him to deal with. Scrabbling to look for ways to kind of make up for the amount of damage that was done must really suck.

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                • They've been replying the whole time; it's just never good enough for some people. They gave everyone the same guns when D2 launched to balance the game for pvp; wasn't good enough. They got rid of trials of The Nine and brought back trials of Osiris; wasn't good enough. They added sbmm so that .5kds should never have to play against 1.5kds; wasn't good enough. Added new maps and brought some back; wasn't good enough. Nerfed some character abilities(titan shoulder charge?) and buffed other abilities(tracking ohk throwing knife?); wasn't good enough. Tried to buff weapons to compete with hand cannons; wasn't good enough. Made different game modes so that it's not just "team deathmatch" all the time; wasn't good enough. Gave pinnacle weapons that were mostly unattainable to the majority of players; wasn't good enough. Removed weapon recoil for pc players; wasn't good enough. Fixed in-air weapon accuracy(yes, the changes were a fix); wasn't good enough. Keep nerfing things for pvp that keeps making pve worse; wasn't good enough. I could add more. Until the people realize this game relies on the team with the best internet connection to win matches 85-90% of the time, nothing will ever be good enough.

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                  • Thanks you for posting the highlights/ summary 👍 Didn’t know there was a video, so appreciate this list.

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                  • You missed Joe’s reaction video to crosses reaction video to Luckys original reaction video of Mylens video of Joes future reaction video.

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                  • I could not possibly care less about those awful IB modes being put anywhere else BUT the rest sounds pretty good. Hope they can deliver. No praise until the content is here and as promised.

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                  • So a few things... Who's to say the pvp map pack won't just be 3 reprised D2 maps that we already paid for? Who's to say the Eververse armor they're putting into the season wasn't made last minute as damage control? Meaning, it wasn't truly going to be an Eververse set at all. None of this does anything to make the game better unfortunately. Maps are great but they can't balance pvp at all and the connections are beyond terrible. A new subclass next year will only make it worse. A new armor set to earn is cool, but will the rest of the season be full of recycled weapons like all of Lightfall has been? Also, we heard the "renewed pvp focus" before, and it's hard not to see this as simply damage control because they want pre orders for Final Shape with their reveal next week.

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                    • Timing is to suspicious, this just a sales pitch. I’m not buying anything until I see results. This has been my policy for awhile now and it has paid off so far and saved me the frustration of buying something I didn’t want.

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                    • Classic. How many times has a situation like this happened now? Damage control before any major release as per.

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                      • Edited by Guardian, Archon Of Light: 8/16/2023 8:57:25 AM
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                        Bungies word is worthless and has been for a while, If they told me grass was green I wouldn't believe it

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                        • ahhh desperate times by them Good luck with the hype next week

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                        • I ain’t supporting Bungie unless Final shape is heavily discounted and I see the map packs. Even then, idk if I can stomach the disrespect the PvP community has received all these years. Bungie has tarnished their reputation with me.

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                          • hahahaah jesus they believe this video fill fix the shitstorm they raised? Really?

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                            • Ah damage control right before a big announcement, same old same old.

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                              • Edited by Mark, Scholar of Stars: 8/15/2023 10:06:36 PM
                                I like Blackburn, I'm sorry to see him like that; he looks pretty stressed and he also has not seen much sun... It must be dramatic, if he makes a video like that. That's damage control. Seriously. Because sale starts in a few days.

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                                • Best parts: (my words) Communication talk that omitted forum. We have to hide our identities because you people are monsters. Thanks for the summary

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                                  • Lol, when your boss says: “you need to get out and fix this…now” But thank you none the less joe.

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