[quote]My bad, I have 0 Immortal Kills. Everything I use gets nerfed into the ground from D1 Doctrine of Passing too D2 Dmt to Max Armour titan in d1 to Mnk Stability nerfs in D2. It's wild. Synthos gave a 200% Damage Buff for 4 years. I use them for 2 weeks for the first time, and they get a 150% nerf.[/quote] Ok but the D1 doctrine of passing on release was too oppressive lol there was a reason why literally everyone used it

Bungie is just out to get you, because you are too good

Only thing I never got nerfed was controllers aa. I should of tried to get a Immortal. I hate that gun I'm hoping mid season patch they nerf it. So I can play comp without everyone switching to that 0 skill gun.

I swear, over half of your posts are complaints about aim assistance. Personally, I don't think the Immortal is that strong outside of Peacekeeper Titan builds, but the Immortal is definitely overused. It's not fun to play against the same loadout in every game. I prefer variety

It's because aa removes the skill gap in the game. Along with controller have slowed pc pvp down significantly. I just want to only play mnk players. Because when I die I know it's actually someone using their actual aim not because their controllers aa got stuck to me because I flinched them into me. As you've only played controller you don't and will never understand it. Also like most d2 players, I'd assume you laugh and find amusement to dying/trading. Also, you'll never know how fun and fast D2 pc pvp was when it was 1 controller player in a lobby of 12 and not 6 to 11 out of 12. Controllers aa has literally ruined 3s. Don't believe me, watch a Destiny 2 Tourney where it's 3 controllers players vs 3 controller players. The score always goes to time (15 minutes) and never get over 30 out of the 50 kills. Funny watching top Mnk players in trials barely beat a team of sub 2kd controller players with Immortal and Snipers is crazy. None of this will ever make sense too you because you've never played mnk and took time to learn how to aim without aa locking on. Remember controllers aa is literally designed for fixed rolls with low stats, 30 fps and 72 fov. Now we have perks, mods, max stats, 105 Fov and if you're on pc 200+ fps.

It honestly sounds like you're making excuses about why you can't win. You don't need an external reason to lose games. Which top players use a controller over M&K? I'm genuinely curious because on paper and by feeling, M&K seems superior. [b]M&K: [/b] 1) Built in higher accuracy (programmed into the game) and less visual recoil 2) More precise aiming 3) Remain accurate at higher sensitivity 4) Better movement 5) More customizable button layout [b]Controller:[/b] 1) Reticle Stickiness 2) Controller vibration 3) Option to play on console or PC

87% of Destiny players are on controller.

How many of those are on console?

66%??? Not sure if dumb or trolling about top players. Literally, the last 4+ Tourneys (I know you probably are clueless what that means, but. It's 3v3 clash in private matches where people who are good at pvp play each other in brackets and has strict rules on what you can use.)have been won by 3 controller players. I'm not going to name them because I'm not trying to get some forum ban for naming people. I know you d2 players love dying, controllers aa and bot walking. But I don't and don't want to play controller players. It has nothing to do with losing as I have roughly a 95% win ratio in the past 6 seasons?

Console doesn't have the option of M&K, so it's not a fair comparison. To make a fair comparison, you have to look exclusively at PC usage. Also, where did you find your "87%" and "66%" stats? 3rd party hardware primarily benefits players who pretend to use controller but really use M&K, because they get the benefits of both. It would not surprise me to learn that some players who appear to be using a controller are really using M&K. Even if you could confirm the results of the tournament, who cares? Im sure there are other tournaments that M&K players won, and those results are equally meaningless. I don't understand how you can make all these claims: 1) Controller is overpowered due to aim assistance. 2) I use M&K. 3) I win over 95% of my games. 4) 87% of players use Controller. Obviously, you are not actually having problems beating controller players, so why are you complaining? Your claims contradict on a fundamental level. I understand why you're complaining, though. Everyone has their excuse for why they lose. For some of my Xbox friends, it's Playstation. For my Playstation friends, it's Xbox. Some people blame the lag, cheaters, or even a loadout. It doesn't matter. You don't need an excuse to lose, so quit making them

You're literally the definition of a clueless console player. It's crazy how much aa has fried your brain so much you actually think you're aiming. When controllers aa is literally designed to remove the skill gap just like weapons with tracking like Osteo Striga/Jotunn etc. People literally made a bot that shows how many players per platform per day using Bungies api. Somehow, you're a d2 addict but don't even know simple facts. I always use 33% split as for rounding when yesterday 28% of players were on pc so that 87% of players on controller is more like 92%+. You kids constantly bring up "top mnk players" but when I mention High Level pvp Tournements, you immediately dismiss it by saying something dumb. The last time a full mnk team won a tourney was 3+ years ago before cross play tourneys.... Last time a mnk player/players won a tournament was 2 years ago almost and it was 2 mnk players and 1 controller sniper (Dudes the reason why Snipers aren't allowed in private marches like scrimp/faceit). It's not just about winning and losing. I hate dying to someone bot walking on controller who can't miss because of reticle stickiness. If you attempted to actually learn mnk, you'd get ran. Your kd would go from a 2.4 too less than a 1.8. After 1 year or 2 it may go up. It takes years to get good on mnk.... The thing is you'll never understand and you will immediately dismiss everything I say because you're a clueless console player.

This is all conjecture. Will you send me the link to your stats? I am assuming that you used Charlemagne, but I didn't know that Charlemagne could break down input usage. I just want to know how many PC players use either input. How many PC players use Controller? Provide link. How many PC players use M&K? Provide link. If more players use controller on PC than M&K, I'm willing to concede your point that aim assistance makes controller easier to use than M&K while playing Destiny.