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5/8/2023 6:13:19 PM
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Competitive matchmaking and points system is the biggest joke!

Wait in orbit for 10-15mins for a match. Win. Gain 5pts... Wait in orbit for another 10-15mins for a match. Win. Gain 5pts... Wait in orbit yet another 10-15mins for a match. Lose. Lose 200pts! *Repeat the above* Make it make sense!!! For those still trying to chase the emblem, this is a total nightmare. Yet, a huge amount of people got Ascendant using an exploit. Bungie didn't hesitate on ungilding everyone's Dredgen and Glorious seals due to a bug. Why did those who used this exploit not have their points reverted? There is wide public speculation over how matchmaking actually works, but no one seems to be 100% certain. Some say SBMM, some say rank, some say win rates, ELO, connection? I'm sure there's a lot of factors at play and the dwindling population is compounding these mechanics. Everyone knows comp is meant to be a challenge. I happily take the losses with the wins. But winning 6-7 matches in a row to make a decent dent in the climb only to lose more than the total of the points you gained after losing 1 or 2 matches is complete madness! The points system and matchmaking have single-handedly annihilated the Competitive player population and experience. Please acknowledge and address this in a TWAB.

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  • Matches that are won but give 5 pts are a direct result of poor performance.

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  • Yea, it’s absolutely stupid to have sbmm in a “ranked” competitive mode and then distribute points based on performance… If I’m playing 90% adept-ascendant players while I’m still in gold, I should be getting a -blam!- ton of points on wins and barely anything on losses to get me to the rank where my skill belongs… but it’s the exact opposite for some reason. Ranked has never been a complicated thing to get halfway right, but this system is just entirely broken. Plus, rift is a “fun” mode, not a competitive mode. Genuinely hate this playlist right now and won’t be finishing it…

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  • Edited by Underpaidsniper: 5/12/2023 11:19:30 AM
    Yep win 4 in a row and +20 points and lose one and lose -200. Its ok I had a bad game I can come back from 200 points. Another lose, dang my bad again, -150 for facing literal PVP gods. Next win +5... next win +5. Next lose -200...... What an absolute joke. No wonder no one wants to play. The only time that it was fun when the mid season patch came through and you could back out to not lose points. I never had so much fun playing comp when you could just back out so you didn't lose 200 points just to win and gain 5. Oh yeah and I just love how Every Single Kill is The Immortal (adept). Love playing comp!

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  • Won a comp match tonight, WON, mind you. Highest KD and Defeat total on my team, second highest KD and defeat total in the lobby. Lost 37 points. How. How do you win, lead your team, go positive, and yet lose points. Make any part of this make sense.

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    they decide your games before you even begin. 95% of my games i either have a high%+ chance of winning, or a high% chance of losing. what’s the point? especially when all my games are against ascendants, makes it even more of a lottery

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  • Bungie do you not see these post!!! We are trying to get your attention!! The comp point system sucks!!

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  • Last season I did the 7 games required for ranking. Got Silver II. I suck, how is that possible? lol

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  • It needs a rework. It's such a joke of a Playlist. Blame all the Negative Skill rating players who want a forced 50% win rate. Unfortunately Bungie devs that make the decisions are just as bad as the kids who want a forced 59% win rate. To cater to them... Comp points gained and lost are solely based off your Bungie Skill Rating. So your Comp Rank is predetermined by Bungie. So you're already a certain rank before your even play. Then the add sbmm to force a win rate. It's so stupid.

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    • I’ve been trying to just get the seasonal challenge done. So far I’ve managed 3 games and at 50% after choking the 4-4 sudden death 1-1 on the third game. With that said I’ve spent 20-30 minutes playing and 2 and half hours trying to matchmake. I reckon 80% of the time it times out after maybe 10-15 Minutes at 4/6 telling me to check my network connection. Potentially no one else in the pool as bad as pvp as I am.

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    • Joke. Should be funny, it’s not. Comp and “scoring” is a secretive non disclosed bull crap. Play well and carry the team + 15…. Play sweats and win + 15. Play against people that have no business outside of silver I get +100 the + 69 against another coordinated team. Don’t get me stared on lag and poor hit detection or straight up error code garbage and -198 points or horrible teammates when trying to advance to next level. And dropped down -400. Really bungle? There doesn’t appear to be anything more that a hamster wheel mechanic to

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      • That does seem excessive, even the best players must be frustrated with that system. I mean you would have to win 40 games for each loss going off that point system. Makes no sense

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      • Edited by HelloImBradIy: 5/8/2023 9:18:33 PM
        Biggest joke of Comp; - Play 7 "qualifying matches" against Adept / Ascendant players including multiple games against max 10,000 players while being "untested". Gets placed in Gold 3". If Bungie's Comp SBMM deems my skill level high enough that while untested I should play against not only tested players, but max rank tested players, then my qualifying start point should be Ascendant.

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        • No way..xD Bungie make only great Things. Best in Team which do all time carrys get 5 Points while the other 2 pve bots with 2hits, get 75+. Just fair Same with comp(Rose) - trials(Adept) everytime only bot mates but These Guys get every godroll. This Weekend i Hit 5x flawless ( untill sunday reset) i get over 35 Hc ATM and all of then are the biggest Trash. Same with Last Weekend over 80 shotguns no1. But pve grandpas 5/5 best in Slot, Sure GG Bungo. Why IS there No better rewards for ppls which are 24/7 top Tier? Oh my Bad then would These ppls Stop with Farming n your grandpas can Look how they do it...

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        • I feel your pain, in the exact same boat here lol been travelling between adept 1-3 for eternity

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          • When Bungie’s main pvp leads left when stasis dropped, I had no idea just how bad that would harm the pvp side of Destiny.

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          • Edited by ΞsnΛχΞ: 5/9/2023 9:05:51 AM
            At that rate it would take approximately ten hours to gain 200 points, which you may lose in one game, probably because someone drops out or you have two blueberries on your team while facing gilded flawless ascendant emblems.

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              Thought it was well known that comp is STRICT sbmm? There’s no reason to play it, putting sbmm in comp makes ranks meaningless

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              • Edited by damnter: 5/9/2023 12:29:06 PM
                A little bit over the top the way you're putting it, but true. Win 4 matches, loose 1 and back to were you were. It's redicoulus. On top of that, when you get rift and 1 ore 2 daft teammates. Good luck! Back a 150 points! The matchmaking and pointsystem for a solo is absolutly horible. It makes no sense what so ever.

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              • No offense bud, but the joke is you who are playing it even though its broken.

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              • i dont really mind the points system but Titans are the most broke things ive ever seen MM against a 3 stack of titans and its just auto gg

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                • If you gain only 5 points on winning means you've been carried.

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                  • My nephew who is 8 and has a .43 K/D has reached platinum & has the glorious title. Stop your -blam!- -blam!- and get good

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                  • Is it skill based matchmaking or rank based matchmaking?

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                    • That's what you get from a team that can't put balance on point system so I'll bring point system from Shadow Fight Arena and it's a mobile game - 1v1 * Win : +10 * Loss : -10, lower if you're lower ranked player - 3v3 * Win : +30 * Loss : -30, same rule for lower rank Much fairer and you have better chance to go up with balanced gain/loss so how come team in bungie didn't think about it?

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                    • Use barrel shroud on your matador, 80 range on precision frames is the cap

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