My Strand build for Warlock is a suspend build. Necrotic Grip, Osteo Striga, Judgment of Kelgorath Glaive (demo/incandescent) and Circular Logic MG (feeding frenzy/target lock). It’s brilliant and on my Warlock if you want to look.

Precision plague, or Syphilis sprayer hmmm choices choices

Osteo every time, thorn badly needs a good catalyst

For PvE, Osteo + Necrotic grips and either devour or the shackle grenade + consume aspect on broodweaver are the two best non-solar warlock builds in the game right now. Striga + Grips has absolutely broken add clear potential. You also never have to reload and will probably consistently sit at 2x - 4x mag size with the overflow. I used the devour build in my trio root run a couple weeks ago. Then for bosses I had Striga and grips for pre damage and a Starfire damage build for hotswapping. It’s absurd how strong this combo is. There’s quite literally no justification for Thorn over Osteo in PvE. Ever. For PvP, Thorn might be the better pick. Osteo’s projectile travel time can often make the difference between you winning or losing a gunfight. Thorn is hitscan so this is not a concern. Plus 140s will always be solid PvP picks, especially in 3v3.

I started the season with a little over 2k kills on my Osteo. I'm currently at 20,517. I took the Necro's off just long enough to mess with Swarmers for a couple days and went right back to the Necro's.

Don't sleep on Shadebinder Bleakwatcher+Necros. I imagine that's what hell is for the Vex.....

Thank you everyone for the help! 👍✌️ Seems the verdict is out, and Osteo Striga won by a landslide 😂

Doesn’t necrotic grip’s give Thorn what Osteo has base with the whole poison explosion??? And if so what does it give osteo?

Pve definitely go osteo, for pvp thorn is better. Touch of malice also works with necrotic by the way since its also a weapon of sorrow, I don’t have it so I guess it sucks in both pve and pvp since no one uses touch of malice. I cant wait to see necrochasm come back, thats also another weapon of sorrow and will pair perfectly with thrall explosions and poison

Striga itself will make it so that the poison spreads from the primary target on rapit crits or when the primary target dies. Necrotic grips will add the effect that whenever any poisoned target dies, they will spread the poison. However, I find this is rarely worth the exotic slot as the strige poison is nice but has very limited range. Youtubers will always show a usecase where the build is "op", showing (and all of them) one or 2 different lost sector scenarios where it is good, but in the majority of scenarios, Necrotics will be barely noticeable, even less so in scenarios with a team. [quote]I've also heard that glaives SLAP with necro[/quote] Imo one of the following holds: You either get killed by the sheer difficulty level when you engage melee with a glaive for too long, in which case you don't want to be inside a group of adds (and the poison won't be killing much then anyway. Or the glaive itself just destroys the adds and there is no need for poison. I find Karnstein's to be the wiser choice almost every time. [quote] I love volatile rounds this season and I'm wondering if Ecliptic Distaff may be a good choice of glaive[/quote] I would likely not play it over enigma because of the lower shield duration and I don't see it working together very well with volatile rounds as only the projectile wil trigger that. I rather have something fast firing like an SMG make multiple targets volatile quickly and then chainexplode them. But hey, why don't you just go and try things out for their viability? Don't let some internet people hold you back.

Personally, I prefer thorn cause it’s buff and the feel of the handcannon over the smg

I used Thorn for ages with the Necros, however I switched to Osteo Striga when Strand dropped. Osteo Striga + Necrotic Grips is a hoot! It's much better than Thorn IMHO, especially if you've unlocked the catalyst. 😁

Strand made Osteo meta with Necrotic Grips atm