My brother in Christ you still use two primary weapons on every character. You're getting slapped because you can't get with the times and play right

Gonna keep it real, I’m just not going to take these posts seriously if you use double primary. And let’s be honest, most people complaining about difficulty are.

Ahh yes-ye olde “I’ve been playing Destiny since__” post. I love these.

I'm perplexed that no one in this thread is respecting his opinion . After all he is a veteran who's played since beta......

"I never did master spire before" "Neither have I" "Me either" "Ok let's go. Should be super easy since it's old content. Let's all run double primarys" 7 hours later "Wtf Bungie you made the game too difficult"

So, I agree that some content is no longer fun to do. Master dungeons now fall into this category, compared to what they used to be. However, I took a look at the builds being used by your team. First off, I see no one using either solar for restoration/well or void for devour(being warlocks). Both are great survivability options. You may not want to use those builds. But this is master content. Basically, bring the meta, or you are in for a rough time. Master isn't impossible, but it is not rewarding enough anymore.

[quote]I have been a veteran since beta. There have been some difficult sessions in Destiny that we knew (as a team), if we persisted, we'd win. But this is impossible. After playing for almost 12 hours in the Master Spire dungeon - we quit. All of my fire team by any standard are considered very good players but this is not possible as a team. We are getting one-shotted, and brutalized even not even 5 min into the game! This isn't challenging - it is degp[ressing. We decided that would be our last dungeon ever because it is not even fun anymore. Please stop listening to the egomaniacs ( and I know a few and they are not all that good of pve players and they very seldom can the play with other players - they are more tolerated than enjoyed...) - and streamers that keep saying "It's too easy." The majority of your capital doesn't come from streamers - but the average guy/gal who comes home after work and wants to play for a few hrs. Remember that. You penalize those that rank up from grinding giving us 'caps' - What the hell? Stop constantly changing what was good and nerfing the crap out of exotics we spent hrs grinding to get... If people want a challenge - let them learn to play chess. But for the rest of us - stop making the nightfalls and dungeons idiotically hard - most of us do not have the time to grind and lesser time to play. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] So lower the difficulty…

The term veteran doesn't mean anything since 99% of people claim to be one, and yet somehow still suck at the game. Master content is not hard. If your team are 'very good players' then you really shouldn't be struggling. I wouldn't even consider myself good and I'm clearing Master stuff no problem.

You claim to not have time to play yet all your characters are 1830+ and yet still not able to do content that’s, I believe, a year old? I actually do have time to play but I choose not too and Im more than capable of doing anything they throw at us… assuming it’s a 3 man activity. Im also not even at the cap yet.

At 1830 suggest you play this game a lot. I think this is a skill issue for you, perhaps you have hit your skill ceiling

Double primaries is not the play. You'll have a much better and easier time if you take a few minutes and look at the mods that synergize with survivability, damage, and generating orbs. Game isn't "too hard" you're just too stubborn to invest a few minutes into figuring out what needs improving gear/mod wise. Also stop using double primaries.

No way do I believe this user did any of D1's hard endgame content but all three of them spent 12hours in a master dungeon & couldn't clear it. If that IS the case, y'all have lost all of your skills & talent in video games because y'all have been spoiled with a super casual gaming experience. That's not the games fault. Master Dungeons are still a joke, they're just not as easy as they were in S19.

with a forced -20 under, these activities are basically ruined. even when on level they were HARD. constant champion spam was already ruining them. and we only ever did them for the seals, collect adept weapons once and or the artifice armor. tried master spire, master duality, other master raids, none of them are even worth anything, just avoid them. (for artifice armor non boss encounter, like sow first encounter is better) ALL of them are instakill in the first minute of gameplay. getting stomped instakills, backpack instakills, splash damage instakills (splash damage bug is still not fixed), wyvern boss projectiles instakill from 5 meters apart, 2-3 enemies shoot you, etc. BUNGIE, pls remove the mettle modifier from master raids and dungeons, they are the worst activity by far in any game, god of war on hardest difficulty was 100x easier than these.

Master dungeons are pretty much meaningless after you have good sets of artifice armor, anyway. Not worth the added time and effort besides getting the seal. That's the only reason I bothered to even do master Spire once.