I disliked the story. Everything else seems well implemented and I’m having a good time playing after taking a break from destiny for a while. I think lightfall recieved the amount of negativity it did because the campaign is mainly what people get their first impressions out of. The witch queen campaign is my favorite campaign Bungie has made. With the narrative leading up to the big finale, this was supposed to be where the grand stage takes place. But it’s quite evident that lightfall was split in half to give us one more expansion the final shape. The result feels like lightfall is one extended trailer for the final shape. Literally the opening and ending cutscene of lightfall happened in seemingly one shot with the whole vanguard still standing on the helm. I don’t know what the veil is, yet everyone keeps talking to me like I do. I missed a season or two before lightfall came out so initially I thought maybe this was just lore I missed out on. Turns out all my destiny friends were just as clueless. In the campaign, I don’t really get to know rohan to care about his death. Nimbus is just awful character writing; their lines are way too corny and they talk like an actual 13 year old. It’s obnoxious. The thing that really puts the nail in the coffin for the campaign for me was nimbus’s reaction to rohans death. They brush it off like it’s nothing. The quest after the campaign elaborates further and we get a reason for why they act the way they do. But I believe this should’ve been in the campaign. Somewhere in the campaign they need to establish that the cloudstriders value stoicism, or at least Rohan does, but I don’t think that very was well established. Overall the narrative feels very rushed. Like as if some last minute decision happened and the narrative team had to scramble to throw something together in time for its release…[i]Why does this sound familiar..?[/i]

What made people "mad" about Lightfall were mainly 4 things: 1) Bad campaign with horrible story and terrible design. This was a huge let down because Bungie seemed finally to have found the rifht path to follow to bring a good narration to the players and the Trailer hyped the campaign like something big. 2) The discovery that Lightfallis basically a filler expansion with cut contents took by TWQ and TFS while, again, it was hyped light the next big step for D2. 3) The "bring the challange back" philosophy that kinda pissed off many because the game felt suddenly more time waisting in a bad way with bullet spongy enemies. 4) The fact that Strand, as it was for Stasis, was to complete by buying Aspects and Fragmets through a slow and boring grind.

Lightfall and Neomuna is like Forsaken and Getting the Tangled shore....only we get no Dreaming city to go along with it! It seriously feels like something major is missing with this expansion. It's like we only got part of the actual storylines

Was a disappointment because the expectations for the story were so high on the heels of witchqueen. A majority of the story missions were not engaging and the story was written poorly. This is our initial first impression of the new DLC that EVERYONE is engaging with. If you're a lore person, it was a fail. If you're into an engaging mission it was a fail - those strand tutorial missions were aweful. If you like immersive writing - it was a huge fail..fist bump amiright? The rest of the expansion is solid. Great QOL updates, updated difficulty (except why the raid is so easy i don't know), new build crafting system (albeit feels kinda shallow right now) , destructible environments were good, new lost sectors were good So yes, mid, but disappointing because expectations were higher. Marketing team did a banger job.

I think it was bad because of the campaign. We had more filler missions than I can remember. One whole mission in a vex construct so we could practice using strands, stuff like that. At times, the story made no sense and then poof it's over, and it left everyone with way more questions than answers. At least at the end of Shadowkeep, Rise of Iron and Witch Queen we felt like we accomplished something. We defeated a major for or something. This time we defeated a lieutenant that we beat already. And it didn't do any good. Then there's the difficulty change that Bungie did. I'm not going there since it's been discussed ad nauseum in the forums. I'm usually non-judgmental but even I was disappointed in this DLC, especially for the price we paid

Because they cut up the story again to split it into 2 expansions

Rise of iron had good stuff especially when moments of triumphs came along

Rise of iron was actually good and fun

Transphobia and a general burnout from high expectations the 9th year of the Light vs Dark saga. That’s why LF is hated. Bungie literally told us this was going to be a cheesy 80’s action movie AND IT IS! The missions were so fun and challenging playing with my friends, and the final mission is my favorite one to replay because of the battle we have with Caital’s forces on our side. I think Lightfall is just how you put it: average like the rest of the DLCs you mentioned. I liked it and had a lot of fun playing.

[quote]There’s a lot of people on here saying that Lightfall was a huge disappointment for them. In my view, Lightfall is a fairly average expansion, similar to the ones listed in the title. There are things I like and dislike about each of them, but they all seem to be in roughly the same ballpark, in terms of overall quantity and quality of content. Is it just personal preference? Sometimes I’m scratching my head over some of the comments, wondering what’s so different about this expansion.[/quote] It was scrapped content from past and future DLC The first and final cutscenes are literally just one whole cutscene split in half from FS and Strand is pulled from WQ after it was cut from it. As well the entire verbiage from Strand was changed as the Anti-Barrier rounds for Strand use to be called “infested rounds” showing how last minute these changes were As well the raid itself has a encounter that feels like it was pulled from a whole other raid/dungeon and leaks showed a psion boss that we were supposed to get instead that has similar mechanics to the rest of the raid. The DLC is the ultimate cut paste cut paste

Lightfall is new.

I'd say the no:1 difference is [spoiler]burnout[/spoiler]