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3/30/2023 9:16:06 PM
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If the leaks are true, will Graviton Lance get a similar buff to RZero?

75% bonus damage to the heavy burst on RZero. Supposedly, there are leaks regarding Lance getting a ROF buff to match RZero with a damage adjustment, but this is where it gets weird: Lance has the impact of an adaptive frame, but the archetype bonus of a lightweight with less damage than one in PVP. I think it actually does the same damage per burst as RZero in PVP, but more than a LW in PVE. No one uses it anyway, partially because it launches slain enemies back before they explode, and because it's easier to kill with an actual LW/ adaptive frame than Lance. The only thing it has going for it is the second bullet has no falloff, but if you're competing at ranges you can't 3 burst, you're better off using a scout for a faster ttk and more consistency. I think all scouts kill faster anyway. So, it's definitely not getting a PVP damage adjustment, and current numbers using the crit target at range in the Enclave: LW does 1462x3=4386 Adaptive does 1715x3=5145 Aggressive does 1459x4=5836 RZero heavy does 2004x2=4008 Lance does 1009+3783=4792 So, RZero after the buff should do 7014, and if Lance does get a ROF buff, its damage shouldn't decrease as changes like these almost always mean.
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  • I hope so Graviton would be really fun

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  • If it changes to the same exact 2 fire burst as revision then I’m actually gonna use that thing again. I just hope bungie removes the weak bullet and the strong one. I never liked that about the lance, I want to see it being cut in half like revision instead.

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    • I am a graviton lance main, with 40,000+ kills with it, unfortunately, it dissapointed me and so I switched to stasis warlocks, and I bet no one will still use it after the buff, the only thing it needs is this perk, Cosmology activates on rapid hits just like outbreak perfected, this time its void and purple.

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      • [spoiler]Based off the leak, Graviton is getting a 20% ROF increase, and the damage differential between the first and last shot is being tightened[/spoiler] Graviton suffers poorly from having a 20-80 split. That’s it’s biggest weakness 4 sure. On top of over relying on the second shot: it’s flinch (received) is awful, as the second shot is also higher recoil, which tends to follow through into higher flinch when dualing, even with max Stability. I hope they increase its damage a little (PvE)to be in line with Revision. Even a 20-30% increase in Cosmology would do well.

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        • no not exactly... Gravis stig is that the first bullet does less damage than the second... they want to make the shot not 20-80 they want to make it 50-50 so that Graviton gets more in line with other options surpassing it right now (i love my Graviton lance and am really happy about the buff)

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          • Graviton is easily my favourite exotic. Pairs really well with Void Warlock.

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          • RZ is certainly the pinnacle exotic weapon that has least been used, ever. Such a goofy reward for such a beautiful exotic mission.

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          • I use it....

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          • Wait what is ROF AND LW?! Hahaha 🤪

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