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3/29/2023 2:14:45 AM
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All Raid exotics should be Quests!
Am I making this cause almost all of my team have the exotic except me (and I’m slightly annoyed), yes but I still feel it’s worth mentioning; me and my team have done every drop chance boosting challenge thus far except for flawless; despite this 4/6 of my day one team now has the exotic.
What happened Bungie!? I need to know why you pivoted away from raid exotic quests. One of my fondest memories in this franchise was getting the OG Outbreak Prime a year after Rise of Iron’s launch.
Now between various content creators like Skarrow and Datto showing the issue with this system where you can have a raids title and still not have the exotic because of random chance feels off.
To the community I pose the question, what feels worse; not getting the exotic because the game just arbitrarily won’t let you or because you cannot compete a quest?
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Quests suck. Drop protection is fine if it’s in all raids.
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7 RepliesQuests legit remove any and all reason to replay a raid. Just look at Garden
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Their drop rate seems to be okay now. I got my first conditional finality on my 10th run with all the chance booster triumphs completed and except for one, and I got a second on my 11th or twelfth run yesterday during a master run through.
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4 RepliesProblem is raid exotics are completely propping up raids. An even smaller minority would bother which is not to say that might be good thing. But I agree with you. Instead of raid with RNJesus or die, these should be quest-based. The focus for raids should be an enjoyable group activity in its own right. Not grind past hating the game, potentially in an activity one already hates, to get an item and then never want to step foot in ever again...which is many if not most players going by raid popularity figures over time.
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7 RepliesNah It killed garden That's why exotic quest won't ever happen Also you admit it yourself ....you want it to change cause you dont have it yet ....its just another change peoples want because of entitlement I got mine last night but honestly below 30 I don't say anything Around 50 is when it start getting old But right now what's the max looted run? 12?
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Absolutely...NOT!!! Completely defeats the purpose of raid exotics being the RAREST loot in the entire game. Stop asking for handouts for the RAREST loot, when the entire process of getting them is purely rng and luck based. I've only ever gotten 2 raid exotics between D1 and 2, and im most certainly not complaining.
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1 ReplyYear 9 of a 10 year game: "THIS RNG BASED GAME SHOULD NO LONGER BE RNG! YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS GAME EVEN THOUGH THAT WOULD TAKE MORE TIME THEN IS EVEN LEFT!"
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1 ReplyNah. Better drop protection yes. Quests no.
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1 ReplyHas everyone forgotten div and much that was hated.
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2 RepliesNah questing killed Garden, I still haven't gotten Div because I didn't raid when it come out and now finding a group to do it with is tiresome, especially since Bungo stopped you being able to backtrack from the boss encounter. I definitely feel that they should add ways to increase drop chance like they have in the newer dungeons. I've got dozens of clears for both VoG and DSC but haven't had Vex or Eyes drop, it's infuriating.
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2 RepliesDivinity, is that you? oh well, guess I didn't need it, nobody does GoS anyway.
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1 ReplyThe 44 people who upvoted this are the 44 people that have divinity 💀
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6 RepliesEdited by AbsolutZeroGI: 3/30/2023 5:49:49 PMThe issue with this suggestion is that too many people want to do their first run and the quest run at once, and as someone who's done about a dozen div runs, I can say, conclusively, that they're universally awful. People don't even try to learn the raid before going in to do the quest for it. They want 5 daddy gamers to carry their baby @sses through the raid with the puzzles so they can get div and never go back to GoS again. After about 3 or 4 of those, all years ago, I called it quits. I'll happily take someone who knows the raid through to get a div. I will happily do a Sherpa run. I will never do a Sherpa + div runs again. I am far from the only one who has that rule. And since 99% of people who don't have div have also never done garden, a lot of those people aren't getting help. It's not that nobody wants to help, it's that inexperienced people have no idea what they're asking for, and what they're asking for is a looooooong run where they have to learn the puzzles AND the raid in a single go. Alternatively, they're asking for a carry where the other people do all the work. Sure the run is shorter, but then you gotta find 5 people experienced enough to want to do it and also have the time to sit and actually do it with no real reward. A tall order since most of us who are capable of that are doing other things already. If every exotic were like divinity, everybody would try and get it like divinity: on the first run, begging to be add clear while actual raiders do all the work. It didn't work for GoS, and it won't work for anything else either.
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The quest that guarantees it should require you to run it every week multiplied by the number of characters you have until it randomly drops - which encourages MULTIPLE runs of a raid, instead of carries for those useless mouth breathing New Lights that wanted a free Div and never run GoS again
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So your saying you just want tee stuff cause you are lazy asf
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Would like them to be like d1 ToM quest
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My thought is this d1 raid exotic quest were long. I do think they should be rng but have a questline for those that would rather have the guarantee. But they would need to be toned down from d1 a bit
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1 ReplyD1 raid exotic quests were extremely long and detailed. They were meant to make the exotic as rare as it would be if it was still a random drop. Raid exotics in D2 are the only source of truly rare exotics and I honestly don’t want that to go away. I still miss the excitement of getting an exotic drop during forsaken when they were still actually rare.
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1 ReplyAs I read this post all I hear is Savathun's worm from the Parasite quest: "[b]Carrrryyy meeeeeeeee[/b]"
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I've always said there should be a quest exotic AND random drop exotic with the random drop being the bosses weapon
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Agree 1000% It’s the only way they should do raid exotics. Or change your drop rate to something acceptable
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Jet Set WillyIt’s all going concording to plan 😂🤣 - old
They should remain an RNG drop but also have a quest that guarantees the raid exotic at the end. That way the thrill of it dropping on the first completion remains, but people won’t need to do it 50x plus just because they’re unlucky. -
then you take away the fun of the -blam!--sipping dev on the beach on its RNG chair ... this will not happen :o))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) we need pain, thats their decision, i mean look at the dev-videos whats going on their at this "personalities" :o)) too much pain for my taste, i have chosen different ... :P
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I will admit it would be somewhat cool as long as it isn't divinity where you're stuck there for hours on end. On that note I finally got div, 4.5 hours. Thank God.
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I think the increased exotic drop chance is a start to mitigating bad luck with RNG. However, I think the only way I would support a raid exotic quest is if the player has 15 LOOTED clears, then the quest drops for them. The quest completion requirements would be something like, complete all loot encounters on master difficulty in one run, then turn the quest in at the loot chest at the end of the raid.
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One change that has been suggested by others and I is to add a token system to the RNG drop rate. Each week you can earn only one token per completion per account. You get 15 then you can turn in all 15 for the exotic if RNG has not blessed you with the exotic weapon.
