For anyone who says that the PVP community doesn't help carry the game financially you're flat out wrong. PVP players pay for the game to get new weapons and new sub class' and new armor looks all to take into and test and play in crucible. This leads to paying for ornaments and emotes and whatever else. Bungies disregard. Invis player bugs. Lack of map attention. (Disjunction is still a thing for goodness sakes and everyone hates it) No new maps (Aside from the trash one you made and the rubbish you brought back) No dedicated PVP team. Worse lobby balancing and less fun games than ever before with nowhere to go for a fun casual experience. Old crucible armor. Old Trials armor. Old Iron banner armor and weapons...just re-skins for days.