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Edited by SilentStorm725:
2/28/2023 9:28:16 PM
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HOIL “nerf” isn’t a nerf, but a MASSACRE
150% class ability regeneration down to 25% for 2x empowerment. Grenade and melee empowerment timers cut to half (10s to 5s). And the coup de grace, NO reworks for any other ability energy exotic (who the -blam!- wants to use Mask of the Quiet One, etc.)
Meanwhile, you reverted the nerf to Hunter dodge and NOT Titan barricade.
Before anyone gets into a fit, I KNOW it needed a nerf. Hell, we ALL knew that it will happen. But my argument isn’t that Bungie nerfed the exotic itself, but that they nerfed it into UNUSABLE territory.
Can’t wait until Synthoceps gets nerfed because everyone will flock to it. Or Falling Star. Or Ursa (again).
In the long run, I know that I’ll be ok because of the exotics above, Crest of Alpha Lupi, and that void fragment that gives overshield on critical health kills. But this nerf in of itself is ridiculous. All you needed to do was to nerf the timer by half and it will be fine. It won’t be broken like it used to be but it will at LEAST be somewhat useable.
At least the gear in my vault will have a new friend… 😆😂
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Scared to find out what they did to my hunter build… Saying that, for the last year, I 100% totally forgot about those mods, so my mobility has not changed… But I still agree with your post. I “get it”… But a very clear and strong heads up would have been nice to the community a long time ago so that they could grind accordingly.
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What do you expect from a game designers philosophy of “we are nerfing it so people don’t use it” just like citan ramparts in PvP. They were already easy to break and not nearly as oppressive as child of the old god but bungie nerfed them saying “you should see less of them in PvP now” nerfing something so that it’s not a choice anymore is their philosophy
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Removing a problematic piece of gear to balance is better than using logic and doing the job you are paid for to make it fit well into your game, according to Bungie balance team. Good job guys!
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[i]Look at how they massacred my boy[/i]
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2 RepliesI feel there's a reason, because they didn't want us to use it, they knew titan strand was unpopular and we would go back to are arc build. I mean it's like BUNGIE is mocking us because guess which exotic orniment on the first week is for sale in eververse? You guessed it HOIL orniment. If that's not taking the pi$$ I don't know what is
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1 ReplyYet they buff hunters lmao
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4 RepliesEdited by Cervantes: 3/1/2023 3:09:48 PMAside from excessive grind and lack of love for PvP, this was the other main reason why I quit Destiny 2 three months ago and cancelled my Lightfall pre-order. Loreley gets three nerfs within six months of its release (two indirect, one direct), meanwhile Omnioculus is allowed to roam freely for five months before it gets its first nerf. Cannon Brace gets insta-nuked, meanwhile Gyrfalcon is allowed to terrorise PvP for months before it gets reworked (not obliterated like Brace). Touch of Thunder Storm Grenades get nerfed multiple times within the same season they launch, meanwhile Invis is barely touched for four straight seasons. Titans get Barricade and Citan's nerfed, when only nerf to Barricade was necessary, just because Hunters couldn't deal with AE changes (Citan's was fair and balanced, now it is unusable). Titans resort to the only good PvE Exotic they had left prior to this season launch and the subject of this thread, HOIL, and that gets nerfed to the ground as well. Initial reports seem to suggest the new Titan Exotic from this season, Abeyant Leap, is good. It might well be but rest assured, not for long. Needless to say, I won't be returning to this game but I encourage fellow Titans who are still playing to be more vocal then the Hunter majority is and demand better from Bungie.
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I’m literally so F’ing tired of Bungie being so out of touch, especially when it comes to PvP. They love to make unwanted and unwarranted changes and then not make changes we want. I’m livid that they: • Removed Stat Bonus from Powerful Friends. • Removed Stat Bonus from Radiant Light. • Removed Stat Bonus from Quick Charge. • Astral having a god awful stat package. • Didn’t fix Mine Benders awful PvP perk pool. • Spare not coming till Season 21. • Story was awful Quick Charge loosing its Handling Buff will make shotgunning feel so much slower for everyone but a Ophidian Warlock (I’m a sniper main BTW).
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Edited by Wanderer: 3/1/2023 3:52:52 PMWhen the game is made less fun, I'm inevitably waiting for that hand being held out asking for more money. I swear it feels like that is the tactic. A future season or dungeon or paid content will give back a bit of the ability spam build's former glory, but it'll cost us. I reckon, I reckon. 😣
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3 RepliesAnd they left starfires protocol alone as well. Kinda bs if you ask me
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I’m just gonna say it they should’ve reverted HOIL air really would’ve been useful for strand grapple and melee I don’t see the point in it it doesn’t feel even at least decent it’s like only one little bit of it and now I feel like I need to rely on only having a existing weapon with demo just to get my grenade back which I don’t wanna do cause that just takes the fun out of running around :(
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1 ReplyThe pve portion of the nerf seems completely ridiculous on paper I thought maybe they cut it in half for pve not absolutely neuter it. Pvp was where the pain point was, the pve portion just seems like a “get -blam!-” statement.
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I understand why they reduced its potency. I still would like clarification on what they meant by letting other exotics to shine. Mask of the Quiet one, Phoenix Cradle, Severance Exposure, Eternal Warrior, Hallowfire Heart, and more all still left in the dust.
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It’s a shame because titans really have a ton of exotics used for specific abilities or combinations of them and so many are just bad.
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Leave it to Bungie to finally allow players to save builds in game and destroy builds at the same -blam!- time.
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That's exactly what it is a nerf. Nothing balanced about it. Just bought an ornament for this now it's just going to be sat in the vault.
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I tried using it and it’s horrible. You can thank that streamer Saltgreppo for spamming about HoiL needing to be nerfed. Now another Titan exotic bits the dust
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I just wish they would spend a month or two and revamp ALL the exotics. I mean go through every armor piece and weapon and make changes. Too many weapons and armor pieces are ridiculously bad, or just serve little to no purpose. Exotic should feel exotic. Since we can only have on 1 exotic, they should be REALLY good compared to legendary armor or weapons. It’s frustrating when there are only 1 or two meta armor for each class. It makes them feel really restricting. I know it likely won’t happen but I would be very happy if they did this.
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Yeah I’m not on the bandwagon of bashing on the forums but the nerf was overboard. I’m a Warlock main BTW.
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Edited by CORPERATE COMMANDER: 3/1/2023 9:50:14 AMAgree id blame streamers they wanted game harder so all exotics and abilities nerfed shows how toxic the devs are the nerf was day before lightfall release obv trying to dodge the mass of refunds since literally noone is happy with the nerfs except streamers like salta and datto
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6 RepliesLooks like titans are crying.
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we all know hoil deserves it anyway
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That's the point
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Edited by Meaga: 3/1/2023 2:17:55 PMThey’re pretty obviously trying to tone down the ability spam in D2.
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Skill issue.
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7 RepliesGood.
