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2/23/2023 3:55:56 PM
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It's become clear from the reaction to the recent article that more than a handful of you are blaming content creators for decisions Bungie makes. I'm here to help and create a safe space for people suffering from what is an obvious form of psychosis. Don't yell at me about Saltagreppo. Divinity did too much. It deserved a nerf. Not arguing this. Same for anarchy (even though it's getting buffed again) and Datto. It was overperforming at the time and was going to get nerfed regardless. LeT uS bE pOwErFuL. When something is so obviously a loadout choice that not using it is such a disadvantage, the item needs adjusting. it just does. I'm sorry if these changes made it to where you couldn't complete content. I'm willing to bet the number of people in that specific group is infinitesimally small. If you've played this game for a length of time, you know everything at the top is brought down eventually. May take weeks or months but eventually, it comes down. Did these streamers cause these nerfs? No. Did they speed up the rate at which it happened? Maybe? but unprovable. Stop blaming other people for Bungie's decisions. If you disagree or don't like the decisions, that is on Bungie. Lastly, many of you are vastly overreacting to the difficulty spike. Strikes will still be mega easy. You won't HAVE to match every surge and overcharge to be able to easily do the content. It's going to be okay. I promise. And you can take that to the bank. They won't give you anything and will probably look at you weird, but you can definitely take it there. Have fun, kill aliens, blame Bungie for Bungie decisions.

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  • We found the kid that donates 90 % of their monthly welfare to streamers and sits in D2 streams 24/7. Get your little head out of your bubble. You are a tiny minority who surounds themselves with unemployed elitists and thinks thats a massive playerbase. You are not. You are just the people with too much time. Arguing that your opinions matter is deliusional.

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    • Lol gamer conspiracies

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    • Most in here that disagree with this post and are anti streamer will talk all the talk until they need to be carried through trials of Osiris or a raid or a GM. They will be in their chats begging for a carry for those adept weapons instead of figuring it out for themselves. (Keyword most not all.)

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    • You’re wrong. Streamers act as advertisers for Bungle. They need content that allows them to make videos. If Bungle doesn’t make the changes they want, they go promote another game. The easiest and cheapest way to change content is to make it harder. New gear and new maps take money and Bungle is all about money.

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      • Edited by Gunship: 2/24/2023 12:47:57 PM
        [quote]It's become clear from the reaction to the recent article that more than a handful of you are blaming content creators for decisions Bungie makes. I'm here to help and create a safe space for people suffering from what is an obvious form of psychosis. Don't yell at me about Saltagreppo. Divinity did too much. It deserved a nerf. Not arguing this. Same for anarchy (even though it's getting buffed again) and Datto. It was overperforming at the time and was going to get nerfed regardless. LeT uS bE pOwErFuL. When something is so obviously a loadout choice that not using it is such a disadvantage, the item needs adjusting. it just does. I'm sorry if these changes made it to where you couldn't complete content. I'm willing to bet the number of people in that specific group is infinitesimally small. If you've played this game for a length of time, you know everything at the top is brought down eventually. May take weeks or months but eventually, it comes down. Did these streamers cause these nerfs? No. Did they speed up the rate at which it happened? Maybe? but unprovable. Stop blaming other people for Bungie's decisions. If you disagree or don't like the decisions, that is on Bungie. Lastly, many of you are vastly overreacting to the difficulty spike. Strikes will still be mega easy. You won't HAVE to match every surge and overcharge to be able to easily do the content. It's going to be okay. I promise. And you can take that to the bank. They won't give you anything and will probably look at you weird, but you can definitely take it there. Have fun, kill aliens, blame Bungie for Bungie decisions.[/quote] Agree re: blaming Bungie [i]Trust me... I do[/i] Overreacting: Sadly no, I wish we were. The [b][i]artificial[/i][/b] difficulty spike is only really the tip of the ICEBERG. I think the real anger here stems from a few things; First, the catastrophically poor sense of what we want in Destiny, and what we will continue to tolerate. Bungie is (DELIBERATELY IMO) miss interpreting an across the board DEMAND for a more rewarding experience to mean that we wanted more Difficulty. This pissed everyone off. Secondly, this is blatant attempt to twist player understanding of game design as a concept. The IMPLICATION here being that making the game more rewarding must [b]always[/b] come tied to more BS difficulty. This, of course, is a lie. Thirdly, and more troubling, the [i][b]WAY[/b][/i] Bungie is adding the 'difficulty' is deliberately LAZY & Amateurish. Tiny Indy studios would do better work over a weekend. So you really know what I mean I will spell it out to you: [b][i]No AAA Studio should EVER add "ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY" to a game. [/i][/b] It always hurts the game experience. The way to adjust difficulty to increase challenge is through behavioral changes tied to the Ai, reactions to the player, adjusting or introducing new tactical dynamics, perhaps with map alterations to alter the playing field in ways that change the dynamics. [i]Look up "Artificial Difficulty" on youtube for reference if needed. [/i] WOW, did Bungie tip their hand here. This coupled with the absurd recent posts from Bungie tell the players pretty clearly, that any future work on Destiny will essentially be slapped together trash with the minimal possible effort, BUNGIE doesn't want to OVERDELIVER. Finally, Bungie has been slapping together changes and 'new content' this way the whole last year (not including Witch Queen). Even longer if we consider horrible and inept Difficulty scaling as long as I can remember. We are starting to realize just how much Bungie has deliberately skimped on quality. Now we know it was on purpose the entire time! It was all to build a cheap repeatable template for making more abominations like this. Whose only true purpose is to grind up players, wasting unimaginable hours of their time in a predatory system designed top to bottom to get maximum money for absolute bottom of the barrel effort. This is [i]WHY[/i] Sony bought Bungie, and what did Bungie promised them? 12 more like destiny by 2025?!?? Its now Crystal clear Bungie NEVER intended to make Destiny 2 what it could be. And they NEVER will. [i][b]Gunship[/b][/i]

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        • I agree. These forums are filled with a lot of streamer hate. Honestly, idk why. Besides, you'd think someone that plays this game for a living would know what's best.

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        • Ahh another Clyde/Aztecross/Paul Tassi cultist rears his head. Sure thing pal. Keep singing ur song and maybe one of ur favorites will like this post. This post is dripping with desperation that maybe Salt will like this post or reply. Or maybe Lucky will put it in one of his d2 drama videos. Watching you guys make these posts is sad. Just sad.

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        • Edited by DarkOmen_ZA: 2/25/2023 1:11:56 AM
          Exhibit A: A streamer worshipper...

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          • Everyone -blam!- about Saltagreppo about the Div nerf and I find it hilarious because everyone still uses Div and we’re still taking out raid bosses like they’re nothing.

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            • L post

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            • Think you created group for your own delusion of your streamer gods. Maybe stop worshipping them and open your eyes to reality . Amazing people rather watch some random person play exact game they have and could be playing and some even subscribe and pay streamers 🤷🏻‍♂️

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            • Edited by DrippyRichard: 2/25/2023 12:52:14 PM
              Grandmaster Nightfalls are aspirational content, that we wanted to be sure were “watchable”. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/48930]https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/48930[/url] [url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/04/10/bungie-reveals-the-point-of-destiny-2-grandmaster-nightfalls-definitely-isnt-loot/]https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/04/10/bungie-reveals-the-point-of-destiny-2-grandmaster-nightfalls-definitely-isnt-loot/[/url] It’s incredibly naive of you to think that content creators don’t wield influence over this game, or Bungie’s decisions regarding the game. Edit:I fixed the links.

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              • Congrats you've been downvoted by mwah 🤣

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              • It’s more like this is just your way to put your white-knighting of streamers front and centre. You’re the one who got your fee-fees hurt, and here you are complaining about it.

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                • You clearly have no idea what's is going on.

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                • [quote]It's become clear from the reaction to the recent article that more than a handful of you are blaming content creators for decisions Bungie makes. [/quote] Then maybe bungie should stop inviting streamers to early access events. Maybe that would stop the speculation that they are in bed with streamers.

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                    Nobody upvotes your post clearly shows that your statement is just wrong and not true! They have a big impact on Bungie´s decisions and not in a good way unfortunatelly! Cheers

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                    • Edited by razerz7777: 2/24/2023 11:42:33 PM
                      We found him, someone with a need to justify his streamer subscription. You know it is okay to try and play the game and not just look at and copy streamer load outs. Most people play the game to relax. Instead of them ruining pve they should have given that love to the pvp side. I personally don’t like pvp but those players needs some real QOL improvements and have been left to far behind.

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                      • Have you noticed that the streamers only called for the nerfs to certain weapons after they achieved what they wanted while using the guns they then want nerfed ! It's not the difficulty of the strike or raid that we care about it's that we want newer strikes or newer raids and new weapons not hash pash re-release weapons that we been using for years to chase,

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                      • I bet you enjoy watching grown men with pink hair play video games. Whatever floats your boat.

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                        • You can’t be that naive?! Streamers and Bungie go hand in hand .

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                        • Dont cater streamers but invites them to launch events, sends them game packages and listens to there feedback. Why would anyone think they cater to streamers at all.

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                          • Geez stop simping for streamers and content creators. L post, and fyi divinity clearly wasnt a problem since players are still clearing raids just fine.

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                            • Sorry can't hear you...your heads too far up glads -blam!-.... Bungies golden boy ...Hard Facts

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                            • It’s hard to have fun when I can’t use the weapons I have fun with because they’re not the chosen weapon for champions. It’s why I haven’t played the game in a long time. It’s not fun anymore because of the decisions bungie makes.

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                              • incoming idiots

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