It was revealed that the Winterbite Stasis Glaive will be going in the Power Weapon slot. This will result in the exotic more than likely never being used or hardly ever being used, this is because Winterbite takes up your Heavy Weapon slot, which normally is occupied by a Boss DPS weapon such as a Linear, Machine Gun, or Rocket Launcher. Unless Winterbite does damage comparable to that of Rocket Launchers and Linears, then this Exotic Heavy weapon will not be worth using, as the only weapons that do good Boss DPS that aren't heavy weapons are also Exotics. And from the footage shown, Winterbite is geared towards clearing rooms of enemies, NOT dealing boss damage, which makes its usability plummet, as it denies people access to good Boss DPS.
TLDR: Using Winterbite will sacrifice your boss damage weapon with no alternative weapon to do boss damage with, because all of the non-heavy weapons that *can* do boss damage are inaccessible due to being exotic, and Winterbite already taking up that exotic slot.
You guys knocked it out of the ball park with the Design of the weapon, but due to it being an Exotic Heavy, unless it does damage comparible to commonly used heavy weapons, this Glaive will be what the community calls "Dead on Arrival".
One way to fix this could be moving Winterbite to the Kinetic Weapons slot, BUT continue to have it use heavy ammo, that way you can still have a Boss Damage Weapon and use the new glaive at the same time.
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With the upcoming changes I see why they got it in the heavy slot i honestly thought it was just a regular special glaive that just has some stasis buffs applied to it but i still want a special slot stasis weapon.
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1 ReplyThis post is straight up not factual. Your heavy slot does not always need to be filled with boss DPS. For instance: Vog: Oracles, Gatekeeper KF: Totems, Golgy if you are holding gaze Garden: The first area (whatever that's called) Vow: Getting inside, totems, Running relics In addition to raids, most GM nightfalls are usually better off running add control/clearing heavies rather than boss DPS. If you think heavy slot is strictly there for boss DPS, you straight up don't know what you're talking about. All that said, it only makes sense to reserve comment on this exotic until we actually see how it performs.
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1 ReplyMaybe dont use the weapon if youre wanting to do boss dps. Pretty simple fix lol
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I'm gonna use it to have fun outside of boss fights, and use a boss appropriate heavy when needed. Really as simple as that, just because it's a heavy doesn't mean it needs to be for bosses.
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Edited by Joulevette12: 2/4/2023 2:00:40 PMWhile I agree I say let's just wait till it release so we can get our hands on it It seems the orb instant freeze 🥶 If it's a heavy then Maybe craftable *Melee should do way more damage *Faster charges 2 or 3 hits *Shield more powerful "maybe before the nerf" * Projectiles do More damage Bosses *Catalyst "ChillClip" That's the only way I'll see this being any good and usable In the heavy slot
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It being in the heavy slot opens up the possibility to run double special, so im not mad. Not everything needs to be DPS only. We have enough of that already.
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1 ReplyEdited by Prissychick: 2/2/2023 11:46:40 PMNoooooooooo! Heavy is a terrible idea!🙄
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3 RepliesLiterally Salvation’s Grip in stick form
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Unless Bungie can prove to me that this is atleast better than the legendary craftable glaives then I shall not bother obtaining it. I already have three exotic glaives I choose to ignore because my crafted glaives are just better at everyhing that obtaining a fourth inferior glaive is just a waste of both mine and everyone elses time.
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4 RepliesHow about waiting for it to come out before whining it's not good?
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Imagine 6 players spamming glaive melee on a boss! Now that’s some FPS action right?
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Will laugh my -blam!- off if it is ghallerhorn 2.0. Why would I use my coins on a heavy?
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I'll admit that my heart sank a little when learning that it would be Heavy instead of Special, but how about we reserve judgement until anyone has actually used it?
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Maybe wait and use it before complaining
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1 ReplyJust an excuse for me to run shotgun/glaive without running double special
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1 ReplyYour heavy isn't always a spot for Boss DPS. Are we really forgetting how helpful Slug Shotguns were? Or even some specials. Heavy slot can be used for ad clear as well as your other slots. If somebody uses this, then they can always use a shotgun or something to make up for the lack of damage. It may not really be a raid weapon. That is fine. Not all are. One thing I do hope for is the glaive to have a ground slam attack. In the end we will simply have to wait. There have been exotics that have surprised the community before with how useful they have been
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1 ReplyI wanted it in the middle slot because it’s stasis. Run a stasis primary stasis Glaive, stasis heavy. Unfortunately that won’t be happening and unless the stasis Glaive hits hard and has some intrinsic champion killing thing, with it being in the heavy slot not really too interested at this time.
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1 ReplyIt wouldn’t be an issue if they got rid of locked loadouts. Match game wasn’t nearly as big an issue. Removing Locked loadouts would really free people up.
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Can it stun Champions?
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3 RepliesYou know nothing about it yet. It has infinite ammo with melee. And most likely the melee will do high damage. If it gets slow on melee as a catalyst it will be very powerfull. And we have powerfull specials as well.
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People initially said the same about Gjallahorn in D1, duh.
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A classic DoA exotic
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Ah yes, another weapon designed to help me grind out Banshee’s core bounties.
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1 ReplyYet another Warlock ability being given out to all classes.
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Here was i thinking we finally were getting an axe as melee weapon , maybe a heavy damage type like crown splitter but no a freakin glaive ... again !!! Who cares what slot , i want different and unique weapons. Bungie is lazy ...
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1 ReplyEdited by max: 2/3/2023 4:01:48 PMI have no complaint until actually use the thing in game, doubt letting a special glaive freeze target on hit will be justifiable, the heavy must be dps mental isn't either, boss dps isn't the main thing in every activity and most exotics aren't used for boss dps