🎵All they do is nerf nerf nerf No mater what what what Got all the eververse verse verse Can never have enough..🎶

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On the other hand is killing master raid bosses in 9 seconds also a good thing?

Horrible way of balancing games. Literally any dev will tell you that buffing everything to match an outlier is the absolute worst solution and will ruin your games balance.

You realize most things are being buffed a bit this sandbox update right? It's time for LFRs to be brought down some, they have been dominating with very little restriction.

Tell me that you don't read twab without telling me that you don't read twab...

[quote]BUFF other guns nobody want to spend 9 hrs on a boss fight[/quote] There’s more announced buffs than nerfs. [quote]Machine Guns Machine Guns have been buffed a few times over the past year or so, but only in PvE. We've opted to increase their base damage a little, which makes them more forgiving to use in PvP. The buff also applies across the board in PvE. PvP damage is typically the base, and PvE has multipliers on top of that. We're also substantially increasing Machine Gun reserves, giving them higher uptime (particularly useful in hard content). Increased damage by ~10%, with the following effects on time to kill (TTK) against a Guardian with Tier 6 resilience High-Impact Frame: TTK reduced from 0.67s to 0.50s. Rapid-Fire Frame: TTK reduced from 0.53s to 0.47s. Adaptive Frame: TTK unchanged at 0.53s. Increased reserve ammo by 50% at 0 inventory stat, and 20% at 100 inventory stat. Note: Inventory stat is a 0-100 value behind the scenes. This is presented as the actual number of rounds in-game, but you can take this to mean that low reserves Machine Guns get a big boost, while large reserves Machine Guns get a smaller boost. Heavy Grenade Launchers Heavy Grenade Launchers haven't been touched in a while and are substantially below some other Heavy options for damage. On top of that, Grenade Launcher projectiles have travel time, a ballistic arc, and relatively small blast radius, so it can be hard to consistently land shots on a moving target and they may hit fewer targets with the explosion than you'd expect. With this change, Heavy Grenade Launchers should be significantly more useful in PvE, and easier to use in both PvE and PvP. Increased damage vs. Champions, minibosses, bosses, and vehicles by 20%, minors by 40%. Improved projectile collision, making it slightly easier to land hits. Increased blast radius by 1m. Parasite is unaffected. It does huge damage already. Kinetic Weapons Kinetic slot weapons have always done 5% more damage vs. unshielded targets in PvE. This meant that Kinetic slot Stasis weapons were straight up better, with extra functionality and no downside. We wanted to give players more of a reason to run Kinetic damage type weapons. So instead of a blanket Kinetic slot damage boost, we're switching to a kinetic damage type boost based on whether your Kinetic weapon uses Primary or Special ammo, and increased the bonus significantly. Kinetic Primary weapon damage multiplier increased from 1.05 to 1.1. Kinetic Special weapon damage multiplier increased from 1.05 to 1.15. EXOTICS Just like many players, we’ve wanted Exotic weapons that have a strong theming around their damage type to use the real subclass 3.0 verbs, and Lightfall’s longer development and playtest cycle gave us the opportunity to add subclass verbs to many of the top picks. Our goal with adding subclass 3.0 verbs is to this grant these weapons additional functionality, and let them tie into subclass builds in a more meaningful way. In most cases, this is also (or is paired with) a hefty buff. The Queenbreaker’s blinding effect was underwhelming for a Heavy weapon, so we’ve changed how that’s deployed. Note that Queenbreaker was also not affected by the global damage reduction to Linear Fusion Rifles, making it substantially stronger by comparison. Shot now chains to nearby enemies and uses Arc 3.0 blind Ruinous Effigy feels very Void-y, and slamming the transmutation sphere was an obvious place to put an additional effect. Transmutation sphere slam attack now suppresses. The Leviathan's Breath buff from a few Seasons back inadvertently reduced the PvP damage enough that it could no longer one-hit kill players in their Super with a headshot. We've fixed that, but also added volatile, and increased the damage vs. Champions substantially to highlight its anti-Champion role. Now applies volatile on perfect draw impact. Increased damage from 396 to 442. This allows it to once again one-hit kill all supers in PvP. Increased damage vs. Champions by 30%. One Thousand Voices was briefly a top pick in Season 14 but has been eclipsed by other options since then. We wanted to lean even more into a chain of Solar explosions by adding scorch, and with the global Heavy weapon changes it's also a strong option. If you have Ember of Ashes equipped, landing a full burst on a single target will trigger an ignition immediately (Exact results may vary depending on whether other players are also scorching a target). Each explosion now applies 10 + 5 (with Ember of Ashes) scorch stacks Sunshot was a top candidate for applying Solar subclass verbs, and the explosions are the clear place to add to. Explosion on kill now applies 10 + 5 scorch stacks. Polaris Lance always had a burn effect, so it was an obvious change to switch this to scorch. Perfect Fifth shots now apply 40 + 20 scorch stacks instead of a custom burn. Two-Tailed Fox had tough competition as a Heavy Exotic weapon, but now it's the only weapon that can apply subclass verbs from multiple damage types without extra steps. Solar rocket now applies 60 + 30 scorch stacks instead of burn, the void rocket already applies suppress, and the catalyst completes the trifecta. Prometheus Lens has utility with its Solar 3.0 rework, but we wanted to give it something more spectacular on kills in addition. Added the Incandescent perk to the catalyst. Grand Overture’s latest buff (increasing the missile’s damage by 50%) brought it up plenty, it just needed its blind updated to tie into Arc 3.0. Switched the catalyst to use Arc Blind. PERKS With Strand coming to the game, along with a new Strand weapon damage perk, we’ve updated a couple of older perks. Osmosis now works with Strand. Elemental Capacitor now has the following effect when using a Strand subclass: +20 airborne effectiveness (+25 for the enhanced perk). Rewind Rounds will be appearing on more weapons in Lightfall, but was custom built to only work with the Vault of Glass weapon set, we've tweaked it to be more general-purpose. Rebuilt to work on non-Vault of Glass weapons. Eager Edge had some bugs that needed addressing in a previous release. We’ve now taken the time to do a more complete rework, which also let us reduce, or remove, most of the restrictions that were in place. No longer deactivates when moving faster than 35ms. Deactivates correctly after a single melee swing. Reduced the base lunge distance buff from 2 to 1.8. Reduced airborne lunge distance penalty from 25% to 20%. The enhanced perk now increases lunge distance slightly, back up to 2. [/quote]

Kinetics, Grenade launchers, LMGs, and various exotics got buffed dawg.

Its easier to just nerf people than... improve the gameplay to offset the power creep. They don't know how to deal with it so they either make "You cant damage target at all unless X" or "You're weaker now." Its a 7000 year old game anyway. It has so much potential with the IP but the execution has been -blam!- from the outset.

They buffed grenade launchers by a higher percentage than they nerfed linears. Also every single kinetic weapon. Also machine guns. Several exotics.

Watch Bungie come out with a “All Y’all Do Is B1t€h .” [spoiler]😂😂😂😂 That would be funny as hell to see. [/spoiler]

Power creep.

I'd appreciate it if gl got a decent buff to reserves. Nothing too crazy. Just maybe an extra 5 rounds in reserves.

Bro just refused to read the entire weapon tuning preview