I just want a dodge that actually dodges bullets man. Can we get at least one thing that works or does the Anti-Hunter crowd just wanna take away our entire kit and leave us with nothing?

Hunters do not need any buffs to be good. They are already the most-used PVP class.

Lmao. And make a Titan barricade that blocks nothing, call it a window. And a Warlock rift that does nothing other than blow up your little Warlock skirt, ala Marilyn Monroe.

You know that hunter has always have the fastes class ability now its on paire with the other class

People forget how shadestep used to work on d1 A simple dodge allowing you to move around corners, reposition, trip out the enemy in close quarters or just flat out dodge around the map like a cat on crack. I would gladly give up my empowered dodge (gamblers, marksman, vanish radiant etc) for a simple dodge similar to og shadstep with a little more distance covered for maybe a 10 second cool down 5 on Max mobility similar to Icarus dash

Yes compare an ability that DOESNT break aim assist. That DOESN'T benefit the team as a whole. That DOESNT give u melee unless you're near enemies, so the risk gives reward. All the while u gain benefits just for using the abilities of warlock and titan.

This is madness that you're even considering conceding those things cause of this nerf. Even as a separate dodge entirely. Between the other classes having faster lateral/horizontal movement than the mobility class and their own movement abilities to rival the dodge... Warlocks and Titans can get into and out of lanes and set up faster than any Hunter class. The others have all of these ways to freely chain attacks, improved lunges, infinite melee shoulder charge dash movement tech every 2 seconds on all but Stasis, chained lightning, tracking enhanced grenades, optional dodge, over shields, better stat distribution potential, personal shields for sprinting, instant recovery, melees as powerful as supers... and you would start negotiating cause they think it was fair to nerf dodge to have a similar cooldown to the barricade? Nope. Let them have their over shields for everyone in the vicinity as often as we can roll out of the way. Remember that our Stompees were too much cause of the extremely predictable, not lethal on its own, jump. Usage comparable to Ophidians was deemed too much. That if that many people are using it there's something wrong. The Sythos and Ophidians that take advantage of the extreme rubber banding and awful connectivity of this game are perfectly fine. I don't want to act like I'm fine with dodge doing nothing when it's been nerfed non stop since it's conception in d1 coming to d2. They give Titans literal free kills. Best movement, highest survivability, most potent exotics. Arc Titan is ridiculous and everyone knows it and you want to come along and beg for us to have less than what we had before we got nerfed just to satisfy them trying to bring Titans in line so they don't kill off Warlock entirely.

Is this a joke post and I am just not comprehending it? If not then probably one of the worst ideas I have ever seen on these forums. A dodge that only dodges and gives no benefit?? That would be like giving a Warlock a rift that makes their armor glow, but doesn’t heal or empower them. For Titans that would be like giving them a barricade but the enemies can shoot through it. Like it’s Hunter’s class ability. I would highly suspect no one would even use it. Anyways I am hoping this is a joke, but you do you.