I'm a 58 yr old gamer, and have loved Destiny since it released. I'm not a content creator, or run in a clan, but just love Destiny for what it is. But the state of PVP just sucks. No competitive rewards (and Rift? Really?) WTF.... Fortress Iron Banner is junk. I don't think I'm the only one who says to himself "Disjunction? WTF... I spend more time running than shooting in that map. I know kills don't matter in Fortess, but would be kind of nice to see. Most of us love Control and Rumble, but I see you decided to make those rotational. Way to listen to your community....NOT. I'm not going to bash on the game, just the idiots who have made these recent decisions.
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4 RepliesIt’s always sucked. Way better games out there for a balanced PvP experience
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9 RepliesThey formally said they are making things poorly and just trying to do micro updates quickly. They said the community responds better and they recommend other games follow this model. "We make games we want to play." was removed from the bungie wall and they instead wrote "We make games that promote friendship." They were successful in their model change. This game is so bad, it makes me want to stop gaming and go hang out with my friends.
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Recent decisions from D1 to D2 a flurry of greedy decisions that costed them a huge player base. A great game with a despicable business and sales dept
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11 RepliesI think Bungie are making deliberate attempts in iron banner to move away from the typical “flawless” types of players and making it more inclusive - PvP activities like this one and rift don’t depend on how many guardians you can shoot… That In itself deserves some praise but the execution is just awful - matches are too long, grjnds are too heavy, and the rewards just aren’t there - if they tuned these new activities a bit more to make them a little more accessible I think people would appreciate them more… But instead it’s just lazy play testing and garish gaps in play that ruin the whole thing… Take the canon drops for example - sounds like a great way to add some Pve elements into PvP but you can melt them so quickly they may as well be nonexistent… I like the thinking here but Bungie need to put more of these game modes in their crucible labs to work out the kinks before subjecting us to 50 or 60 games of broken content…
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1 ReplyAt least we've learned how dumb the destiny community is after playing IB. Legitimately the most incompetent people doing the dumbest possible thing all game long. Stop playing for kd and play for the win.
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Edited by Hugs: 1/11/2023 4:02:46 AMMan, the PvP devs have to be pure evil. Seriously, whose idea was it to introduce penalties for leaving a crucible match? Hmmm....I got an idea.... let's make the game so laggy and listen to everything the true PvP community is saying and then do the exact opposite. And then, when they hate the match so much that they want to leave, let's further punish them by not letting them play. It just doesn't make sense. These fake bandaid approaches to solving problems are a joke, Bungie. Go to the root of the problem and actually listen to the true PvP players. Just give us dedicated servers. We're willing to pay extra for it. Take all the money I give you for PvE content I don't care about and charge me extra, I don't care. Just make the gameplay fair. If I'm just an idiot who doesn't know anything about dedicated servers, which I probably am, then I guess I'll just continue to accept my timeouts in the corner for now. But I'm not paying to play with what you currently have. I'll leave every game I come across where someone rubber bands during my duels. Give me someone 5 times better than me on the sticks and I'll stick it out and accept the loss as long as my bullets register perfectly. I welcome the challenge against better players; it gets me excited to play in the Crucible. Playing against someone like Jinx and getting spanked match after match, just to see how I stack up, and then trying to improve until I can beat him is a dream for true PvPers....but fighting Neo from the Matrix as he dodges bullets and skips across the screen is a no-go for me, and I'll exit the match faster than ... [fill in the blank]
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1 Reply“Just remove pvp” - somebody who doesn’t play pvp
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1 ReplyI identify as 58 but act 15 also.
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“Matter” is all that matters 🤷♂️
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Yeah my playtime in pvp went way downhill after these lastest changes. You forgot to awfull lag everywhere too that somehow managed to get worst.
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Edited by Wheelaa1: 1/10/2023 4:31:58 PMI imagine Bungo's only wish for PvP is for it to serve as a shop window for EV dresses with the hopes that it will bring about some sales of worthless digital crap. Actually, the PvE appears to be so woeful now, maybe the above applies to it too :( Budget dress sim / seller.
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Disjunction being a long map wouldn't be so bad if there weren't so many walls blocking your every step. You spend almost the whole match running and jumping around every barrier just to get some action.
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1 ReplyEdited by Twohothardware: 1/9/2023 9:14:01 PMBasically all of the recent changes they've made to the PvP sandbox over the past year have been for the worst. The aerial accuracy, the persistent weapon nerfs, the buffs to all the ability/super spam, and right now their "loose" SBMM has me about ready to quit and not order Lightfall. Connection based Control at night was about the only thing keeping me interested in the game and now it's just non stop lag and lopsided team balancing every match if you're in a certain skill bracket. I don't know about PC but the lag on console is terrible and it's 100% evident in just how bad this Iron Banner is compared to the previous ones which were not SBMM. It doesn't help that the new Iron Banner game mode Fortress is a gimmick at best and has the same issue as Zone Control Trials. It's just Titan's running and popping bubbles over the zone, match over.
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7 RepliesJust remove pvp, simple
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4 RepliesEdited by Joulevette12: 1/9/2023 1:53:18 PMI got the shader and all the armor I'm done with IB this season and just save the engrams for next season I hate they said they want more gun play in pvp and yet crucible became a watered down version of mayhem with ability spam cover majority of the map with 4-6 players squeezing through tight corridors ,bumping into each other Omg the connection of some players are horrible teleporting all over the place I have more fun shooting at a fallen captain champion with no mods on Don't get me started on this mode I played with all three classes and I have to say if you're not a titan your experience will be miserable this is why I hate objective modes in this game it favors 1 class hard and it promotes Witherhoard use along with majority of the players that don't play the objective of
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Edited by Klaus_Reaper (Adept): 1/10/2023 11:41:54 AMYou know what pisses me off the most? the only gun i was after i didnt got....a roar of the bear with Tracking module + last impression - impact casing, a solar variation of my Hot head since is arc, i have all combinations of this RL, except for the one i mentioned, it must be energy or something, because that's unreal
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5 RepliesI agree with all you say. Specially dusjuction map. I leave every time. There is no penalty in IB for leaving matches.
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4 RepliesEdited by CAT_3_Hurricane: 1/9/2023 7:23:44 PMI agree completely on the map disfunction. It seems like they dont test the maps. I'm 59 and very few matches are fun because they aren't competitive its a blow out one way or the other. Team balance seems almost non existent. Very few matches seem clean without sus kills. Is it cheating or is it just reallly bad lag because the lobbies are geographicaly countries apart. I used to enjoy pvp but now its for pinnacles or challenges. The pve changes aren't much fun either. Bosses have so much more health and the fight drones on and on. I realize making new content costs the company the most amount of money but it also keeps the game relevant.
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1 ReplyRemember that Renewed focus on PvP.........................🤷🏾♂️...................
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Bungie has proven this in their form post explaining how their "Game is more successful than any other company" (Which is a lie during this) Yet in short they were mostly explaining that the game will, and forever will be half finished they do it just to make money with many proof along the way. I suggest watch Darkside Royalty for explanation but he points out so many flaws, and things that have happen during Destiny 2. His opinion on the game have gotten way worst, and he's sad to see this game going down to a place worst than Hell itself even back than Destiny had way more easier ways but its due to Bungie wanting to be on their own they put themselves in that situation, and they are now just doing whatever they can just to make Money in the end. They. Dont. Care. Anymore.
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You wouldn’t care if it sucks if you didn’t play it.
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*slow claps* 👏
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2 RepliesI dislike any map that requires me to run a mile before getting to the action (like the revamped Saturn map that’s name eludes me). Except Wormhaven, for some reason. Love that one.
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1 ReplyIt has sucked since destiny released. Where ya'll been?
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4 Replies[quote]I'm a 58 yr old gamer, and have loved Destiny since it released. I'm not a content creator, or run in a clan, but just love Destiny for what it is. But the state of PVP just sucks. No competitive rewards (and Rift? Really?) WTF.... Fortress Iron Banner is junk. I don't think I'm the only one who says to himself "Disjunction? WTF... I spend more time running than shooting in that map. I know kills don't matter in Fortess, but would be kind of nice to see. Most of us love Control and Rumble, but I see you decided to make those rotational. Way to listen to your community....NOT. I'm not going to bash on the game, just the idiots who have made these recent decisions.[/quote] Disjunction needs a moving walkway like they have in airports