If you’ve ever played a dark side character in KOTOR 1, that’s pretty much how clovis is in terms of a character. Like you said, it’s so comically evil that it just ends up being goofy.

All the dialogue this season seems off and forced Osiris out of now where bragging about being unrivaled Clovis basically says no Osiris flips out It’s so forced to hate Clovis

This week really showed that we need actual cutscenes instead of having our Guardian just stand around and watch things happen. You have Ana getting angry and upset that Clovis was going to betray them, but she shows zero facial expression. And don't even get me started on those lazy black and white pictures that have a character giving exposition.

It’s no secret bungie has weak writers. I’m pretty sure bungie let’s all the rookies write the in game story and they save their talent for the lore books. It’s a night a day difference between the two.

I mean, WOKE company and writers, what would you expect...😱🤣

does it rlly matter tho?

Just like "Savathun is not has foolhearty has her brother, she would not risk a direct confrontation" 1 expansion later..."You have shown me you are right, and we should have always been on the same side, but what the heck, I'm going to try to kill you anyway"

It feels like they're trying hard to copy Mass Effects Saren and the Reapers with the whole Darkness and AI thing

To me, it feels like they’re forcefully trying to rush out this dialogue and pushing this cast-in-stone view of Clovis onto us in order to wrap up everything for Lightfall so that they can just tuck him away into irrelevance like a lot of past Destiny Lore and the Vault. They could have made it so that in later weeks we would be outright betrayed or plan a contingency for when Clovis did try to take over so that Red could subsume his control. They could have tried to open up more about his character and ties with his family, about his old “savior” project from when he was still perfecting the Exo bodies, anything to just flesh him out better, either by making him look more deranged/twisted and manipulative or more understandable as a villain, since just reading “in-game” lore doesn’t have nearly as much impact as an actual experience with the character themself. Didn’t need to be overly elaborate or anything, but it still could have been done miles better. And they just axe him. Just like that. There was no reason to go back to Creation/the labs before this season and there definitely isn’t any reason to care about it now if you’re not a new player. From what I’ve seen from Witch Queen and the past seasons, I’m not expecting them to turn the narrative on its head after this point or make a push to make any significant story plots that aren’t just simplified to repeat X & Y Activity, fight with this season’s reused Big Bad Hive/Fallen/Scorn asset and close up the story to make it point towards the next expansion’s introduction. The team themselves are obviously burned out from writing or they’ve lost their creative flow/direction. That or just pushing and forcing everything out as quickly as possible in order to close it all out just to prep for the next dlc. I’m no narrative or writing critique, but if even I could see this problem, somebody way more qualified would tear them apart down to the atom on their recent work.

He's evil? I mean he was right. We can't trust the traveler to save us. The traveler would have run if Rasputin didn't interfere. The traveler even gave power to a race we are at war with. We know the traveler fled in the dark timeline. Clovis has saved humanity and his evil comes from his desire to control, but he isn't one dimensionally evil. He is still driven by his need to protect humanity above anything else. He went as far as to create bodies that would in theory last forever (or atleast far longer than a human body).

And people say they miss Asher Mir🤔

He reminds me of Dr evil. He is just the stereotypical evil bad guy for the sake of doing bad things