Let me start this off by saying that sbmm is good for the players below top 20% of players. I am myself somewhere around the top 4-2% of players, have been using non meta weapons ever since season 12, last word, dmt, glacioclasm, adored, these are my most used weapons. Sure dmt and last word have been meta at one point but ive used them before and after the nerfs so do what you want with that information. I have about 8k with last word and 7,5 k with glacioclasm, about 2k with adored and 3,5 k with dmt. And i have used solar 3 shot gg forever since d2 came out. What im trying to say is that ive gotten this good with skill and weapons i like to use, and are not meta weapons, but good overall. Now my point is that im sure there are other players like me who have played without the top 10 weapons every season and would like to try new weapons all the time. This causes an issue, i am only facing pulse and shotguns in pvp, a.k.a, meta weapons, i have no chance against tryhards who use nothing else but op weapons, when i try to use something different than my usual loadout. Now im not asking for noobs in pvp but we who actually want to play pvp but literally cant due to tryhards them using op weapons. All im asking is for a second look at cbmm, the servers been laggy, shots sometimes register late, tryhards only, i would just like to play pvp without having the need to use my best. [u]"But you should always try your best, just git gud and stop crying[/u] (edit: funny how this predicted this posts comments and only seeing negative stuff, classic forums), these comments i have gotten before in forums, and i made me realise, i was looking at their stats in pvp and their latest pvp matches to see what they used/played, and i ran into a problem. A lot, and i mean a LOT, of these tryhards switched over to rift/mayhem/clash in order to keep their kd, so i tested this for myself, and lone and behold, new lights, people using really bad weapons, no map awereness, the tryhards are exploiting this and are making more new lights quit destiny, now bungies answer to this would be to add sbmm to everything making things even worse for top players. So you really have to question, was sbmm better, or worse? I think its good in general, but the neglect bungie gives to us who are naturally good and like to use all kinds of weapons, is making me slowly and slowly turn away from pvp. I love pvp and season 15 was amazing in terms of pvp, but this is just really bad, like really bad. My fix for things would be to revert sbmm and actually take time to look at the core problems in pvp, the loot, inbalanced lobbies, no new maps, no new gamemodes, weapon balancing, maybe by doing this yall could look at why pvp is actually dying, and why i matched the same players for 7 matches in a row. Bungie, from a player with 5k hours put into destiny, i really want yall to reconsider this, i have tried to be respectful and show yall facts as to why sbmm is bad to us so called "top players".