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Edited by Terif, Kell of ERS: 10/10/2022 11:02:12 PM
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I don't think Bungie is listening to us anymore

Bungie removes timer from expedition to spite those waiting for ruffians. Ruffian spawns are too long. Players are now at each others throats over who is "throwing". #ruffiangate Still no duality fix even though it's content we paid for. Its the last dungeon I need to solo flawless and I can't do that because it's unplayable. Nerfs eager edge, making the enhanced sword useless. Nerfs divinity even though the majority of the player base spoke out against it. Artifact leveling is an awful and slow system. Too much of a grind for average players. Hard to participate in endgame activities. Champions are still very buggy. Overloads often don't stun like they should. Warlocks are the worst of the 3 classes when it comes to 3.0. They need a hefty buff. (I have ideas for several fixes, especially for solar) Implements quitter penalty in a QP game mode. Not gonna stop me. If I have to play disjunction or I join a match in progress, I'm gonna leave. [b]Bungie was doing good for so long when it came to communication and taking input. As of late, it feels like they are ignoring us or purposely trying to anger us with a lot of their changes. This is a path I don't want Bungie to continue, as it will be detrimental to their brand and a slap on the face to the players. [/b] Edit: Also, un-sunset forsaken and vanilla D2. Those missions would provide a better new light experience than what we currently have. They're the perfect introduction into new content. For example "who's gaul. Who's Cayde-6? Why is Uldren Sov Crow? Who's Hawthorne? Etc, etc. You could also bring back the Black Armory and Season of the Drifter content (OR, in addition to a current season, you could repeat a different previous season that way there's no long term FOMO)

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  • Anymore assumes that they ever were listening. Big egos don't listen. They just put out TWABs about how smart they are and how we just don't understand their vision.

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  • [quote]Bungie removes timer from expedition to spite those waiting for ruffians. Ruffian spawns are too long. Players are now at each others throats over who is "throwing". #ruffiangate Still no duality fix even though it's content we paid for. Its the last dungeon I need to solo flawless and I can't do that because it's unplayable. Nerfs eager edge, making the enhanced sword useless. Nerfs divinity even though the majority of the player base spoke out against it. Artifact leveling is an awful and slow system. Too much of a grind for average players. Hard to participate in endgame activities. Champions are still very buggy. Overloads often don't stun like they should. Warlocks are the worst of the 3 classes when it comes to 3.0. They need a hefty buff. (I have ideas for several fixes, especially for solar) Implements quitter penalty in a QP game mode. Not gonna stop me. If I have to play disjunction or I join a match in progress, I'm gonna leave. [b]Bungie was doing good for so long when it came to communication and taking input. As of late, it feels like they are ignoring us or purposely trying to anger us with a lot of their changes. This is a path I don't want Bungie to continue, as it will be detrimental to their brand and a slap on the face to the players. [/b] Edit: Also, un-sunset forsaken and vanilla D2. Those missions would provide a better new light experience than what we currently have. They're the perfect introduction into new content. For example "who's gaul. Who's Cayde-6? Why is Uldren Sov Crow? Who's Hawthorne? Etc, etc. You could also bring back the Black Armory and Season of the Drifter content (OR, in addition to a current season, you could repeat a different previous season that way there's no long term FOMO)[/quote] I agreed with everything till you mention Warlock 3.0, if it isnt apparently obvious the new Solar 3.0 for warlock has become a dedicated healer role with the option of substituting your well for a ad clear super. But you seem to be like most people and dont like how the class went from the ability to slay alot to a healer role.

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    • Excluding the part about how Warlocks are bad and the leaver penalty is bad, I agree.

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      • they would have alot more players and fans of the game if they just listened to us

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      • Don't worry Bungie will have plenty to say in the coming weeks and months as they go heavy with the hype machine ahead of next year's dlc. Players will lap that up and pre-order in their droves like they always do whilst nothing gets addressed in the game. Complain with your wallet

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      • Dont know whats more sad, the fact that you dont think bungies listens anymore or the fact you havent seen they ever listened in the first place! Youre dollar signs my friend, nothing more, nothing less!

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      • Sony bought bungie just for their vaulted content Sony will bring back vaulted content and the game will be called “destiny’s legends” It will be sold for $70 and labeled a “remaster” 10 years later they’ll have a remake version of the same vaulted content and sell it for $80-$90

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        • Edited by Trotter: 10/12/2022 5:04:53 AM
          Bungo and the woke snowflake mentality has ruined the story/world direction gameplay everything the community has never been more seperated. Its no longer about killing baddies and sweet looking loot. We kill the same -blam!- for the same -blam!- all the time over and over for years pay for it and constantly get disappointed or further proven that our time is not worth it neither is the Content the devs work on for it shall be vaulted or removed. Great way to treat your playerbase. So disconnected and anti fun we dont want politics wack fan fiction we want flaming blue skulls SRL faction wars actually different mechanically driven seasonal activities a true horde mode experience you want a new fun experimental mode make it so we can equip multiple exotics for a pvp mode...instant fun. We want Whisper level content to come out not some black armory archons forge bs seasonal activity over and over. Remember how fun it was to get armsday weapons every week. Strike loot exotic bounties.. so much lost in the dark corners of time. But hey you can get a moth statue or emblem heres more cool stuff in eververse as well.

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          • Edited by Giggles: 10/14/2022 7:07:59 PM
            Man this is thier MO. 1: They make a change, people unite in splendor until we realize wtf you changed all this other crap. 2: The people speak out but the trolls bungie has counters every statement in feedback with the git gud bs. 3: People start leaving game 4: And finally streamers cry on video and now Bungie releases the dmg "We are listening guys" and makes 1 change maybe. Rinse and repeat last 8 years. They only respond when streamers cry i.e. #Divinitygate. All regular players could stop playing and protest and until the syreamer suckups cry ot wont change. Look at sunsetting. Forums blew up and nothing was done then the aztecross, fallout and the rest started ceying there wasnt any content for them hock on youtube and boom sunsetting was sunset. Funny you can find all the videos of streamers backing sunsetting saying it was the best idea ever.....amazing how this game immitates US Government and current media

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            • They have ZERO incentive to listen or change. They're making money hand over fist with it as is. They do this for money, like most people. It's just like Madden, everyone complains about how terrible it is, then line up and buy it every year.

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              • Edited by Major-Payne: 10/11/2022 10:37:31 AM
                Quitter penalties are the best thing they’ve brought to this game in a long time. They should be put into every single matchmaking activity. I couldn’t imagine arguing for your right to ruin everyone else’s experience just because your getting your -blam!- kicked. -blam!- off.

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                • Great post. I agree. Bungie has two masters; ESG score and whatever the “cult” screams the loudest. I got suspended for leaving a game where I was thrown into a slaughter. They broke it further.

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                • Edited by X: 10/11/2022 9:46:49 PM
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                  since bungo left activision, after short time they started to listen only to big streamers/content creators/lgbt/blm and thats it. And the problem isnt in devs itself, but in weird leadership of bungie. Oh and as somebody mentioned, yea WARFRAME is epic opposite to d2. Its completely for free, there is actualy trading ingame, even paid currency! Its story is amazing! Oh and about warframe, that game is FAST, no 5 minutes loadings, no half-working social hubs with 800ms lat and similar d2 tipical stuff

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                  • They pay more attention to Twitter and Reddit for feedback rather than their own forms

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                  • Edited by KanedaSensei: 10/14/2022 8:03:44 PM
                    If Bungie listened to you I would uninstall this game and never look back. The fact that they even entertain community input as part of their game design is the WORST aspect of playing this game. It has normalized all of the nerfs and buffs that Bungie uses(after the fact, mind you) to balance this game. It takes anything that is good and buries it in the name of pleasing the community. This community is a dumpster fire. I wouldn't trust anyone here to cut my grass. Between the Man children and the actual children? Between the entitled dads and the sweats? You can all eat a -blam!- sandwich. Your opinions are trash. You make sure this game is always trash. Please get a life.

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                    • Have they ever?? The "community summit" was an absolute play, get YouTubers to promote your underwhelming game... Snooze

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                      • I don’t see how everyone saying warlock is bad, imo warlock is kinda busted

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                        • any more?

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                        • Anymore?

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                        • They only listen to streamers oof

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                        • Edited by Jinx: 10/12/2022 10:37:40 PM
                          *network related double post*

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                        • Bungie has only ever listened to one thing. The sound of cash rolling in. The only thing that makes them change is when that slows down and then they only listen to the people who are left, not the people who left little by little along the way. It's why the game is so toxic. Because by the time they decide to change the only people left tend to be toxic by nature of the thing.

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                        • They aren't listening any less either. They are doing exactly what they have been doing since D1 first came out. They do what they want, what gives them the biggest profit, what provides them the best way to make money for the company and investors. This has nothing to do with the community or any of us who play the game. This is business.

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                        • OR they could just keep ignoring regular players and keep their zero effort strategie up for easy money cause that what the capitalist companies exclusively care for. Actually respecting players time and making changes FOR the players would be too humane for greed driven ####

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                        • They never were listening.

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                        • Dawn of antiplayer bungie.

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