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7/31/2022 10:14:08 PM
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Scout rifle buff in PVP was a mistake.
As my title states, the scout rifle buff is already making crucible feel worse. Since Bungo nerfed in air accuracy and forced a more on the ground play style on everyone, camping lane's has started to show up more. Than they buffed the scout rifles and now I'm running into stacks just sitting in the back of the map with scouts and not moving. Any map that is medium sized or above has turned into straight -blam!- anymore. The other pita that is also showing up nearly every match is LeMonarch. I know that I'm not the only person here who thinks that that either needs to be removed from PVP or have it's damage massively tuned down.
I know that this will probably piss off a lot of the community for a bit but I think PVP would do better if you removed long range and up weapons (scouts, linears, bow's, and sniper's) and forced people to move around the map. The other thing would be reworking or removing the IAA changed to better facilitate this.
Thoughts and opinions on this?
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2 RepliesThe problem is that Bungie replaced the scout rifles position in the weapon types with the bow. Now scouts have no place in the game - unless they’re super nerfed. Scout rifle use to be my favorite primary until D2.
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7 RepliesThere's a good chance longer range weapons are going to be pretty viable going forward. And there may be less hand cannons, depending. In light of all of this I'd like to submit for consideration that NTtE does not need a nerf like some people were saying at the beginning of the season. Crimson has always been a really good counter, and now forerunner completely destroys it. There are also other weapons that are more than able to handle this lowly not OP in any way weapon. Furthermore, it may turn out that I may have nothing better to do than to try to hit the highest number of kills on that gun possible because I may be sentenced to a long period of distress due to the upcoming yada yada.
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3 RepliesOnly one I've seen be an issue is jade. But thats usually with warlocks camping in rifts with it for the cheese. Thats more a warlock issue then a jade issue imo.
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3 RepliesEquip Forerunner Destroy Scouts
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Edited by eeriearcade: 8/1/2022 9:33:47 AMThe meta leans into different play styles depending on which weapon types are strongest. I’m always confused why people expect the meta to suit their favoured play style, rather than accepting each weapon type gets its time to shine. Destiny has always done this. Use it as an opportunity to try different weapons/strategies. The meta will change again at some point anyway. Also, if moving around the map is your thing, Rumble is always available to you 👍
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Its the scout rifles user job to kill you at a range they can fight effectively, just like how it’s your job to get into their range without being shot up and killed because once you do it’s a close range weapon you have he advantage. This is precisely why there is so much cover.
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9 RepliesScout rifles were already really good in PVP. I've ran Trustee a few times just for fun and it was amazing. Then they buffed them and now Jade Rabbit is the most used weapon according to Trials Report.
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3 RepliesEdited by Angel: 8/1/2022 4:09:29 AMI’m a HC main, and I can’t tell how long I’ve been advocating for Scouts to get buffed. They have been garbage for so long outside of DMT(which I think it should get its RoF reverted and it’s damage and range nerfed to compensate)and they deserve some light. Leave them
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Blame all the people that cry about hand cannons and shotguns.
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2 RepliesOp died to a scout rifle Nothing to see here Also the buff was nerfed quit your -blam!-
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Yeah, this meta is boring. But it’s been an ongoing issue, it’s not the weapons but the community that’s a problem, play like a bunch of rats Cheese wins in this game, the cheesier you play the better your chances. Pvp just isn’t fun anymore
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6 RepliesLove how people complain about scouts but literally build their handcanons and pulse rifles to mimic a fraction of a scouts range just to camp far back and do the same thing oh how ironic.
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1 ReplySorry but I’m glad they buffed scouts because your not supposed to lose every gun fight from 40m to 120 hand canons. Scouts have needed a buff for years. You can’t have only 3 classes of super op weapons, hc’s, shotguns and bows. Some players like me hate using zero skill weapons like hc’s and bows which have been meta for a long time now. Most pulses will shut down scouts anyway.
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3 RepliesThe fact you can actually get kills with a scout rifle in PVP on console now is a refreshing change. (Momentum control doesn’t count) All Scouts have been purposely weak to showcase the bow archetype. It’s about time they became usable. I’ve enjoyed this change.
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1 ReplyWhat was buffed? I must have missed something cause they are performing the same from previous seasons. Seen more Jade Rabbit but that was it.
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6 RepliesYou don’t enjoy sitting in the back lane with a Pulse/Scout and nobody moving? 😱
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4 RepliesPeople like you are the reason we’ve been in a HC meta for three years. Pulses are just as strong right now but they have more options. And if your complaining about them after playing trials this weekend it’s just the map. Wait till next week.
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4 RepliesEdited by A Stormy Dio: 8/2/2022 4:06:09 AM[i]*laughs in Symmetry*[/i]
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JLYK. Scouts have been powerful. Since D2 vanilla. We just have better scouts with better perks. Cope harder. 👌
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Agreed, needs better ttk.
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My thought and opinion - don’t peak the lane unless you’re prepared to engage at range. Each map allows for you to push someone sitting at the end of the lane.
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spoiler they changed near nothing to them
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It's funny the destroy Dmt because they couldn't make it broken on controller. So they made Ads 150 Dmt on all 150 scouts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Take le monarque out of pvp?! Lmao why would they ever do that?
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Mark on this doll where the scout rifle touched you….
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4 RepliesI got smoked a lot in a match earlier today, by Jade Rabbit, sure did feel like I was getting 2 tapped. Not a PvP guy though
