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5/30/2022 7:05:57 AM
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Deepsight Opulent Weapons Aren't For Everybody

I believe in strength in numbers. (Of posts, not votes on posts) Maybe if enough people complain about this, Bungie will actually do something about it. So here's my list of relevant complaints that everyone has already heard and made excuses or come up with solutions for. The drop rates are too low no matter how you slice it. There are 6 different weapons that are supposed to be crafted which can only be obtained by focusing with opulent engrams and getting lucky, or getting lucky from using opulent keys. So... 1. You need 30 red border weapons in order to get them all. 5 of each. No bad luck protection, so you could in theory get 20 red Drangs in a row. 2. I'd say it takes on average 15 minutes to find and clear a Containment 3. You need about 4 of those to more or less guarantee 1 key, and enough energy to focus one specified weapon.(Assuming you've already grinded that much) 3. This is supposed to be something that takes around the season's length to complete. (If a season is 3 months, that's 12 weeks. It takes 5 weeks to guarantee 5 Deepsight weapons of the one you want, not counting this week as it wasn't possible if you chose the ability to focus instead. In theory, someone with bad luck could need 30 weeks just to get all of these. 4. Provided you finally get the weapon you want, (let's hope you don't want more than one) you now have to grind out activities and kills that would've been done by the time you got this far if you were lucky 30+ hours ago. 5. Lastly, if you didn't get the Deepsight frames needed for the neutral element, you have to grind out the neutral element for the good enhanced perks. (Assuming you went for this weapon because you wanted it to be the best version of itself) Though I'm sure anyone going for these will have 10k before they even get a chance to use it. I understand that it's SUPPOSED to be a grind, but as I've said before, grinding feels best when it doesn't feel like grinding. Not everyone has the time. Not everyone has the luck. Off the top of my head, there are many simple solutions to this problem. One of which I saw in a post before writing this one. [u]Suggested Solutions[/u] 1. Remove non craftable weapons from the Deepsight drop table and replace them with craftable weapons. 2. The Opulent upgrade that gives Opulent energy a CHANCE for opening chests (which still only gives you 1 energy) should be 1 energy guaranteed for every chest you open. 3. Wearing 4 pieces of the Seasonal armor should grant an additional benefit where you gain 1 or 2 opulent energy per Nightmare killed. (This also encourages people to actually fight and not just camp until phase 3) 4. Binding with your Vestiges guarantees a key. Respecting your time just a little more, even without improving the rate of Deepsight frames. 5. Each containment 3 will reward you 25 Opulent umbral energy as opposed to 7. If the cap is 200, it makes no sense to get 7 a time anyway. The only justification for 7 is the random focusing option. 6. Each encounter of "Duality" grants you 20 opulent energy upon completion. 7. Patrol missions grant you 1 or 2 Opulent energy upon completion. 8. Reduce the cost needed to craft these weapons by a significant margin. 9. Reduce the amount of weapon frames to 3 like the previous season. It's easy math, Guardian.

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  • Nearing the end of this season, I wanted to throw my experience out there. I have the seasonal triumph seal, I’ve grinded endless containments, chests, keys, severs.. all of it. I have all but 1 haunted weapon crafted, missing 1 bump in the night. I have ONE opulent weapon crafted, and no more than 2 patterns on any other. And every week when I open an opulent chest for the first time? THE SAME deep sight weapon I have crafted. This has been a 3-4 week experience. I couldn’t tell you the last time I actually got an opulent deep sight weapon drop for me that was an Austringer. Bad luck protection, or drop rates geared to dropping you weapons you haven’t crafted would be a huge boon for this. Grinding the keys, and opening the chest just to see Austringers or regular weapons is just none sense at this point for me. All seasonal challenges done, seasonal seal, maxed light level, and I have one opulent weapon crafted. I haven’t deleted any. I have all weapons from witch queen crafted. Only raid/dungeon weapons I am lacking on due to infrequent running. Idk, been playing Destiny since D1. I’ve seen a lot.. but this is just annoying

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  • biggest issue I have is that we get deep sight red border weapons.. that you can't craft. STOP IT. Give me only red borders that are crafteable.

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  • You have AT LEAST 9 months to do this. Crown upgrades GUARENTEE you at least 2 deepsight weapons a week. No change needed.

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  • I’ve reset my rank at the Crown of Sorrow already and throughout the entire grind I got 2 deep sight Drangs and 1 deep sight Beloved. I’m going for the perks now that guarantee deepsight weapons at the crown. Like I get it’s been out a week, I get that. But it would still be nice to not get absolutely flooded with deepsight weapons that can’t even be crafted, and actually get ones for weapons that can be crafted.

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  • I can solo a containment in 3 minutes and it's still too hard to get keys its wild. I just solo everything for randoms since I can't get a 6 man squad since Bungie wants good players to carry bad players... Its wild everyone just bot walks with primaries in pve and never use heavy or special but in pvp they never use primaries.

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    • Reset twice now and I’ve crafted firefight finished getting that up to lvl 17 and am just crafted without remorse and am leveling that up now

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    • i mean i have to play super sporadically because of my job/life and i was able to play containment until i could just buy opulents last week. now i have a beloved and 3/5 on austringer, drang, and mini tool.

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    • Dude the season just dropped I work a 9 to 5 job and I crafted austringer last night I have 4 of 5 beloved and 1 of each from the others .... you got months and months to get them . Plus the crown of sorrow at the helm has it so you can buy what you want over and over.

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    • Edited by Gunship: 6/1/2022 4:48:17 PM
      I have over 3200 hours playing this stupid game. Yea, I know others have more, but that's kinda my point. Bungie's expectation of us, that we should be willing to grind endlessly (and on three different characters) is absolutely absurd. Last season I leveled up to 328 or something on my warlock, not playing the other two classes because I don't [i]want[/i] to play those. As a solo player, It was [i]not[/i] enough to hit 1560, even though I have a guild. And do crucible, gambit, nightfalls with them. Even with guardian games, the highest I could get in that time was 1559. It is completely unreasonable to expect us to grind [i]that much.[/i] I would even go so far as to say its socially irresponsible to even [i]want[/i] your players to blow that kind of time in game. Lastly [i]WHY?[/i] Is this some stupid '80's business guy' theory that we will buy more useless crap from Eververse if they encourage us to spend every waking moment in game?

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      • It only took four days and ive crafted my austringer. Its not bad. Shouldnt expect to get them really fast.

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        • I’m still grinding but I’m not really in a rush to get them. As long as I get the austringer and the beloved to be craftable I’m good.

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        • Considering how the H.E.L.M's seasonal areas stay open for the duration of an expansion, and by extension a season's weapons + activities will stay for at least one season (or in the case of Risen, three seasons) the Bungie mindset towards Crafted Weapon requirements may be that you don't unlock all of a season's weapons in a single season, but instead for the duration of general availability. In other words, the rarity may be so that instead of collecting all crafted Season of the Haunted weapons [i]during[/i] Season of the Haunted, you progress towards getting all of them during Haunted [i]and[/i] the next season. Or even simpler yet, its intended with the rarity that you return consistently to Containment even after Season of the Haunted is over. That way you keep playing.

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          • Idk why everyone thinks they should have all of the new crafted weapons the 9th day of the season. Y’all need to chill. 10% of the season over and people are already upset they don’t have “everything.”

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            • the perk to get 1 a week from the crown........how many weeks in this season?

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              • "not everyone has the time or luck", I just don't care about crafting anything....

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              • Curious. Are there any new craftable weapons available for free to play players? I'm talking about ones that are new as opposed to those added during witch queen.

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              • Can't be too bad. RNG is extremely stupid though. Ran into a guy with a crafted beloved with over 1000 kills on it already. 1K pvp kills.

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              • Only 4 of the opulent weapons come from Opulent key chests. The other two are in the Duality dungeon. Farm the patrol spaces, open chests, do the events that spawn etc. Containment is the slowest way to get opulent keys. I agree the drop rates are BS sometimes, but do at least try to figure out what's faster before making a post like this.

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