I'm a 2 kd overall player who is playing freelance IB. I just matched WITH players who all are negative overall/below average, and matched against players who were all around my skill. Needless to say, I can't carry 5 other players, so we got rolled. Now take that scenario and multiply it by 10. These same things keep happening over and over again. I am not having fun. You need to even out these lobbies.
btw why tf is "H O R R E N D O U S" censored?
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Got mercy’d 5 times in a row Barely hit positive KD everyone on my team went negative Went against all adept decked out PVP try Hards, who all got between 2-18KD 💀💀💀
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Lobby balancing. If you're good, you get the worst teammates.
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Something isn't right when your connection based matchmaking is putting you up against people with Chinese symbols for names
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I've been saying this for years. Especially in comp, the matchmaking is terrible. I consider myself an above average PvP player (I've gone flawless, legend, etc) but when I freelance, I nearly always match with players on my team who are way below my skill level and my opponents are all at my skill level or higher, it literally makes no sense? I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this because I thought I was crazy. Not only that, but the flawless/unbroken (and I know this doesn't always mean a pro/sweaty player because of carries and whatnot) teammates I do get are 90% of the time some of the worse players I've ever seen. Yet if I match against at least 1 flawless/unbroken (which is literally every game at my skill level), they're really good and either its a sweaty match against them or they stomp my team. I truly don't understand.
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Forgot to say if they do smm you going to cry more imagine a bunch of 3kd or higher in the enemy.
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I dont care about that, what I care is mfs level 1525 on my team laterally just left a match were all my teammates were 10 or lower light level.
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Every season it’s the same old thing. “Fix PvP matchmaking.” Every season it gets worse. Should we start using reverse psychology?
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I agree as one of the low K/D players who gets paired on those teams against high end players and teams.
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There is no matchmaking, and there's supposedly no lobby balancing. On one hand, I believe it. On the other, there's no way lobby "balancing" doesn't exist with how consistent these stomps are. Aside from Fireteam stacking, even in solos vs solos matches if you get lucky enough outside of freelance there's VERY rarely a fair fight. It happens randomly enough that yeah, it could just be how RNG plays and there IS a gigantic skill divide in the community from your averages vs your skilled players who live in the playlist. But that tinfoil hat is still on my desk within reach... I was intensely disappointed that today's TWAB didn't mention a single thing about PvP match results, lobbies, or matchmaking. Just a new flavour to get stomped in.
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Yeah, and it is only going to get worse
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8 RepliesBungie admitted in two twabs about 7 months ago that match making only cares about connection. It doesn't care your K.D., trueskill, flawlesses, time spent playing etc. Doesn't care. It matches people based on "good connections to eachother". There is two reasons this happened. 1) Streamers specifically cried and cried for so long to get rid of SBMM. None of them had good reasons cause there real reason is just that they wanted to go against newbs again so they look better in their streams and videos. They wanted to pub stomp. Bungie tweeted admitting by removing SBMM that they made a mistake, they listened to the minority and ignored the majority, and that they are sorry. 2) A very very very small amount of normal players cried about laggy players everyday. Theoretically you should run into less laggy players, and laggy players should be in laggy player lobbies. I remember back in D1 I was rather new to the game. I went to play with a friend and the lobby was all flawless emblems and scarabs on every single player, literally. It was all flawless trials emblems. I said to him I never seen such a thing in my life and he said "all my lobbies are like this". I thought that was pretty cool that he was a really really good player and Bungie only matched him against top % players. It made it fair for me. And he didn't mind cause to him he was just playing others like him. Bungie needs to bring back Skill Based Matchmaking. You can't just tweet admitting you listened to miniority and was wrong THEN HAVE NO PLANS TO FIX IT.
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13 RepliesDestiny uses combat rating, and combat rating is a completely trash system. I have a .89kd this season, why? Because my combat rating is a 140. And every match I go into I’m the best player, and I’m no where near a top tier player. I have friends 30-50 lower that can kill me in a 1v1 like I don’t know how to hold a controller. I have another friend who has a combat rating of 75, this guy gets to boast all the titles “unbroken/flawless….” I can 20 - 0 him in a 1v1 and not even pay attention to what I’m doing. He goes into lobbies with combat rating players 60-80. Now I will say most people below 90 really are trash, but somehow some people manage to keep a low combat rating and are pretty good, I don’t know personally anyone with a combat rating above 180 who is not a bada$$. But me as a perfect example of why your system is trash, just look at my history and ask how in the f~~~ do I have a 140 combat rating, because your system is a joke
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8 RepliesGood players win, bad ones make excuses.
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Most of the time 6v6 matchmaking benefits me by providing easy opponents. It's just not healthy for the game to constantly stomp noobs. Not to mention boring. D1 59/41% ELO win chance split felt the most consistent and comfortable.
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Lile, for reals, Bungie. I've endured everything from double primaries to Laser Tags 1.0 and 2.0 to Iron Lord of Wolves to Stasis and Cheater hell, but this...I can't play PvP in this game anymore. I'm a casual, you don't need to remind me what my K:D is. I'm just so sick and tired of being incessantly teamed up with complete noobs against god-tier sweatlords. Out of the 20 games I've played today, I can count on one hand the number of matches I've played where my teammates weren't kinderguardians sub-season rank 50 with the situational awareness and game sense of a particularly -blam!- toaster oven. The first match I loaded into I had these clowns running Holless and Trinity Ghoul. The ELO differences on Destiny Tracker are staggering. Why am I being loaded into a match with someone almost 700 points below me? Why are matches being made where the skill difference (in Elo) is over 2,500 between best and worst in comp? Why? Bungie! Why!?
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This happened a lot to me in freelance ToO. If we lost I was typically top of the leaderboard and I didn't have faith in a lot of my team. I still managed to go flawless without needing a mercy and that was on Sunday. Iron Banner wasn't to bad. Though I really don't care if I win or lose. Some of the players I played at the end were really good if not better then I was (4 kad in IB). But it was fun. Control has matchmaking issues and a lot of mercies happen and I get matched with low tier players and i just feel bad for them. I don't want them on my team because I want them to have their own space where they face other new players and they can slowly improve.
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2 Replieshonestly, people only complain cuz, 1 we asked for freelancer to run away from the problem that was and still is getting matched with a full 6 stack of pvp sweat lords, dont get me wrong, they still have the right to play, but matching them with average to weak players 8 out of 10 rounds ? then when we did get the freelance, we go to see that Bungie was full of it, cuz matches are both trash in connection and in team balance people ask if the game is SKMM or CBMM, Id say its neither
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This mode is a direct reflection of the people managing and supporting it.
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1 ReplyFreelance should be sbmm, and team que should be as it is now. Can't believe Bungie hasn't figured that out yet. As far as wins and losses, that will always be random unless you are personally terrible and lose the game for your team by constantly running straight at the enemy kamikaze style.
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3 RepliesI fully agree, or you're matched with "Flawless gilded" "Unbroken gilded" in your own team, and these -blam!- only care about themselves in the game, never pushing or defending a zone just ape-ing around the map for solo kills Sadly matchmaking will always be poopy , as there's many inexperienced players who join pvp with season ranks below 10 and then get KD's of 0.3 or worse Same goes for this weeks Guardian Games competitive game , people just go for medals and use their crappy resonance weapons, stasis scouts and solar weapons to complete the gold medal bounties. It's quite hilarious seeing people shoot solar shields with the arc raid pulse doing absolutely no damage at all I'm at a point where I carry a meta void loadout with arbalest because you have to carry 2 complete dimwits through a basic strike, out of the 6 last competitve playlist games with the cabal strike only 1 was with semi decent random teammates I'll tell you what though, this can all be avoided for you/me/us if we'd just make some friends, join an active clan and get groups with other likeminded people going Because Destiny 2 is such a heavily promoted game online, many inexperienced people, or drunk people or high people are playing. It happens in LFG raids too. The reporting system doesn't work, so many people load into the competitive guardian games playlist 1550 and just afk the first 3-5 minutes and then they get really salty when they finally rush in, rush ahead and get taken down by a red bar turret and don't get an immediate revive. I mean come on lol. They get so salty they just stop trying Now I might just have some bad luck but at least previous week was kind of OK if you had something to take down ogres and shriekers. This week all kinds of season pass level 300+ players in my team just rush in like headless chickens with crappy weapons and die. I must admit, I've become a little salty myself, sabotaging the strike if I notice my team is deliberately rushing in and dying. I just open a netflix tab or a video and mute the game sound untill they depart and are replaced with more decent teammates PvP matchmaking has been so shitty the past half year I just use witherhoard in control and IB only with some kind of nasty primary and win almost every game. But my KD is suffering. It's no fun. Then again, I wouldn't have to write this rant if I had made ANY effort whatsoever to keep a good friendslist for this game to do activities with Sad to say but Destiny 2 is NOT catered towards solo players. Any endgame activity, even Vox Obscura master, is a group activity. You CAN solo it, but it'll give you some gray hairs This is all catered towards getting more players into the game; why there is no matchmaking for endgame activities. It's all promotion based. It's all about shoutouts on the internet. More revenue for the cash store in the end, more ornaments sold I'm a sucker for ornaments too, why do you think Gambit Jadestone has such a low droprate in Gambit. They notice that something attracts players and they lower the droprate. Simple. There you are grinding away 2-4 days of your life just to get a shiny green color on your armor that you'll only see in the tower, the tower where you have to come every 1-2 games to empty your mailbox or you're gonna miss out on lots of materials. Must admit this game is the best rat maze ever invented.
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3 Replies[quote]I'm a 2 kd overall player who is playing freelance IB. I just matched WITH players who all are negative overall/below average, and matched against players who were all around my skill. Needless to say, I can't carry 5 other players, so we got rolled. Now take that scenario and multiply it by 10. These same things keep happening over and over again. I am not having fun. You need to even out these lobbies. btw why tf is "H O R R E N D O U S" censored?[/quote] Better yet try typing in the 3 letter version of Robert starting and ending with a b and an o in the middle
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9 RepliesThe matchmaking was decent for the first month after SBMM left the scene and now it has gotten so bad that players are literally stacking teams to avoid or exploit the algorithm.
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4 Replies[quote] btw why tf is "H O R R E N D O U S" censored?[/quote] Any words that are accurately descriptive of the game are banned. Watch. -blam!- See?
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1 ReplyLeft this game for valorant and I’m not looking back. Yes, I rather play with the toxic riot community than deal with bungies pvp in general. I’m much happier not playing D2
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Edited by Kirka: 5/12/2022 6:37:48 AMIt's about the lag
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Working as intended. Bungie hates fair matches