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Edited by whateverman7:
4/6/2022 7:55:32 PM
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Trials Suggestion: 7 wins get you to the lighthouse, even if you have a lost
I didn't come up with the idea, give credit to wulfpak666. I just agree with it.
Anyway, as we know flawless pool and card resetting is an issue in trials currently. The suggestion by that poster to help that is what the title says: 7 wins on a card gets you to the lighthouse, no matter if you have a lost on the card.
Now, before people get up in arms saying 'what about flawless?', there are suggestions for that as well. Flawless people should get 2x the loot, a buff that gives them extra drops after matches for the weekend, and a special glow.
Also, if a weapon is the reward that week, non flawless could get a non adept version, while flawless get an adept version.
Think this would decrease card resetting and get more people to play trials period. Especially if you have all weekend to get 7 wins.
What do yall think?
Edit - the suggestion by the poster was to get rid of flawless/ non flawless pools, but I don't mind them staying with this change.
Also, it's just to throw ideas out to improve trials. They could add this to the trials lab rotation and see what the results are
edit 2 - i see the main disagreement about this is the lighthouse access. People feel the lighthouse should stay special. I think it's only special cause of the rewards, but i get it. How about this as a compromise: yes, let people get to the lighthouse, but make a certain area at the lighthouse only accessible if you've gone flawless. It could be the area to get the flawless loot. It'd be like a vip part of the club. Yea, others can get in the club, but to get to that special part, you gotta have special access aka flawless. What yall think?
edit 3 - just want to be clear about this: the non-flawless people wouldnt get the same loot as flawless, they would just get to see the lighthouse. Something like: instead of picking up the pinnacle for 7 wins from saint in the tower, they could get it from him at the lighthouse. Also, not suggesting this be permanent, but maybe a trials lab idea they could try in the future.
Tldr - after you get 7 wins, instead of picking up your engram from Saint in the tower, you pick it up from him at the lighthouse
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1 ReplyAt first I was lik “Bulls*it! The point of going flawless is to get the stuff they would be getting basically or free!” Then I read furtherance was like “ok, I’d be ok with this I guess.”
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1 Replymm i don't rlly see the reason, bad players already can get ALL the trials non adept gear so is fine
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1 ReplyTrials players are some of the biggest losers in gaming, and they don’t have very good reading comprehension either. Have fun with that.
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2 RepliesSounds like yet another case of [spoiler]GIT GUD[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyIf you want the loot, go flawless like everyone else. Stop asking for handouts.
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No… already enough participation trophies
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6 RepliesNo! No! No! 7 Wins, no Loss= Flawless/Lighthouse. 7 Wins, with Loss= Try again.
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12 RepliesAdept weapon for Flawless run. Inept weapon for just 7 wins.
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1 ReplyIt really depends on what Bungie wants. I could easily see them doing it if they wanted trials to be for casuals.... However 6+ years on it being hardcore, I'm guessing that they are going to leave it as is.
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11 RepliesI'd be ok with this idea if there was no loot for non flawless team or have the lighthouse go back.to the way it was in d1 with the enclosed patway.. then you could have a 7 win social space with a flawless area that the non flawless players could look into/onto but couldn't access
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1 ReplyTrials is for everybody, the lighthouse isn't. And now it's easier than ever to get to the lighthouse, seriously my buddies that can't even get their KD above 0.7 still get flawless runs. Stop begging for everything to be easier it's one of the biggest things slowly but surely putting this game in the bin.
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1 ReplyImo? 7 wins should get you an adept weapon. That's it , 7 flawless? Make it two drops
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6 RepliesNo. If you want the Lighthouse, go flawless like everyone else. Simple as that
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3 RepliesEdited by TINY_RIIIIIIIIICK: 4/6/2022 6:00:55 AMThe concept was stupid to begin with ( flawless i mean) Just let people go to the lighthouse to get their gear. Stop pretending that this game has any competitive PVP. Anything that gives level buffs, or relies on RNG DROPPED GEAR is basically a blam-show from day 1.
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5 Replies7 wins to go to the lighthouse to get loot Flawless players get loot and Flawless/adept loot
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2 RepliesI’d like to see this implemented and I think something like 7 lighthouse visits in a season allows you to choose one adept weapon. Before matchmaking came in I was against it and spoke about the point of trials to team up and the ‘prestige’ of going flawless. But the changes showed more player interaction and that’s only a good thing. The prestige is gone due to recovs and card resetting and the good players will still be able to farm adepts at an easier rate. I don’t even wear my flawless title or try to prestige it due to I see it having no prestige. Let’s just try and make the playlist as inclusive to everyone while having the best players still getting the best loot easier. That seems fair to me. I am against always having freelance as it splits to population and punishes the teams of friends I’m who just want to play together but may not be the sweatiest. I feel these people should stand a chance and the truth is that solo players help them progress a bit further. I think solos should have an option but this is a team based shooter and so teams should take preference.
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3 RepliesWhat they need to do is add seasonal refreshes on weapons/armor and more new pvp maps. A bad player is not going into trials to grab the summoner again when they already got it 2 years ago just because it has a different perk. There's next to no incentive for a bad player to play at all so they leave the mode and then the few bad players left blame the good players who actually enjoy trials for what is for ruining the mode because they are all that's left
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7 RepliesThe point is to win 7 games in row Are you expecting a -blam!- participation trophy?
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5 RepliesSo you want adept weapon for just getting 7 win?
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1 ReplyI just want a new armour set. I believe the current set will be a year old come next season, so they may get retired from the loot pool next season.
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1 Replyyou get a trials pinnacle for 7 wins, maybe make it a guaranteed piece of armor and a weapon. you said yourself in the edit, "I think it's only special cause of the rewards". so keep lighthouse for flawless and give the extra pinnacle for 7 wins that you can pick up from saint.
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1 ReplyThey should also let people get gm loot rewards for just launching the strike and getting at least 1 kill even if they wipe :) that way it makes it more accessible to all players too :)
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5 RepliesBut that’s the whole point of flawless and going to the lighthouse. I’m not even a big pvp guy and I think that’s a terrible idea.
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5 RepliesBetter idea: You need to reach 700 points by the end of trials weekend to get to the lighthouse. A win gives you 100 points, while a loss deducts 50 or 75 points. Basically rid of the ridiculous flawless system and replace it with something that actually makes sense in competitive pvp. As long as someone wins more than they lose, they can eventually reach the lighthouse.
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3 RepliesI'm not fond of Joker as a human being or a content creator. But he's right rather people like it or not they need to add a mess more cosmetics, and have /some/ guaranteed way to get to the lighthouse. Maybe not every week but maybe as your faction reset reward. There are other better sources of gear. The trials weapons are neat but nothing to write home about really. If they want people to play the game, everyone needs to be rewarded, not just the chosen few. And if enough people just decide its not worth playing they will just terminate the mode again.
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1 ReplyI’ve got an idea ; Six numbers to win the lotto draw, Even if the they don’t match the actual lotto numbers
