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4/4/2022 6:39:23 PM
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Trials: Titan Overshields | 3x Resist Dusks | Sunspots
Surely i’m not the only one who thinks the following is ruining the crucible/Trials?
• Exotic head (Titan) Sunspots
• Void Titan over shield barricades.
• 3x resists dusk field grenades
• Bubble in capture point trials
The vow, Le Monarch are able to 1 shot with the sunspot buff.
Titan over shields are constant with the correct build and when in multiples is very oppressive.
3x resist hunter dusk fields with the correct build can be recharged after ~10 seconds.
Bubbles can be places from the moment the flag starts in trials. Counters are slower cooldowns so (most) of the time its a round win. Also comes with OS titan barricades.
I play PvP a lot, too much! It’s fun, something to get away from real life and chill with friends. Right now though its beyond a joke!
I remember a interview with the PvP sandbox dev’s and their goal was to reduce ability spam in the crucible and focus more on gunplay. The current sandbox is far from it!
Crucible should be a fun experience and it still is but in trials these ability’s are far too strong especially when there is 2,3 people doing it. Gun skill has no part to play when you cant even snipe a guy in the head and achieve a kill as he is in a dusk.
Please, if I’m the only one who thinks these are OP then tell me to play another game 😂
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1 ReplyNo mention of invisibility!!
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4 RepliesEdited by kruze: 4/5/2022 7:03:28 PMYou’ve nicely summarized basically everything wrong with PvP at the moment. Anyone who played trials this last weekend will have ran into variations of all of this. In control, it’s an issue but not as annoying as you can just run away and choose not to engage a couple titans with over shields or a raid boss hunter in a dusk field. In trials, it’s oppressive, because the entire point of the game mode is to actively engage the other team. It was made worse by capture point trials where barricades with overshield, duskfield grenande and bubble were heavily used to win rounds that people would otherwise not win if the capture zone wasn’t there. Bubble needs its cooldown put up to around arcstrider level. The duskfield grenades need a damage resistance nerf. You shouldn’t be able to tank a chaperone headshot, a sniper head headshot, a lord of wolves burst, etc. There’s very little counter play against a single duskfield, but it’s doable - teamshotting with high damage weapons, when it’s 2 or 3 duskfield going off and covering an enormous area, good luck. Titans running around with constant overshield is something I don’t know how they can fix. The whole argument around overshield titans is that titans are “tanks” and now they “finally have their identity”. At the same time, if you have an overshield in a 1v1, that can continually be replenishing by sitting behind your barricade, you’re probably going to win the engagement if all else is equal. Overshields have no place in a balanced crucible but I doubt they’ll get rid of them, so at this point they need to nerf something like the duration a Titan has it, and get rid of the ability to continuously replenish it. Teammates in crucible shouldn’t get an overshield from your barricade either.
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So all 3 classes have multiple things that are good. Almost sounds like each class has something to counter the other.
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9 RepliesDuskfield shouldn't stack with Whisper of Chains. That solves the whole thing
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Nah bro hunters have invis so it’s fine bro don’t worry about it bro it’s balanced /s
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11 RepliesA lot of complaining about titans Overshield - not really OP. Hunters go invis, warlocks have rifts. And you can shoot the barricades Bubble - nope. Bubble sucks compared to pre void 3.0. Maybe try running a counter, or a super that charges just as fast (nova, well, tether…). Or here’s a thought, get to the cap point first instead of running and trying to protect your kd Titan helm w sunspots - yes, absolutely, it should only be viable in pve
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Some abilities are op that’s why builds are made to run them. For example hunter able to go invis forever and get it back almost instantly is annoying. It takes them off radar and the only way to tell location is hearing them come up on you. Warlocks have had one shot abilities since empowering rift became a thing. Erianas could one shot and monarch as well. Titans now have that same ability. The healing is almost abysmal. It’s a minuscule each second. The thing that is the worst is when hunters are invis in either of those with a one shot ability. So no matter what class you are we all have an ability which is op. We should leave each of them alone. And let everyone to have a build to strive for. All have a counter. Most titans using this ability is stationary. I agree on the overshield though
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For me this is what made tiers on super and abilities stupid, I'd prefer to run sentinel in trials but there's no point when I can have a super well before anyone else that also creates orbs on demand for my other teammates and Is extremely difficult to beat without another super.
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4 RepliesLmao, Trials is Hunter invis champ! Dont talk about problems for trials capture zone when its not around very often and doesnt need to be in the mode to begin with! Hunter invis is the only problem with any class at all! It should be disabled in the crucible! To many bad players only win because they invis crouch walk around the map like a little -blam!- and hit you with a broken fusion or shotty! You rarely encounter a hunter main not abusing some cheese cause they got no skill with a primary!
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6 RepliesHunters would complain for ages about stag but it’s all silence when they get and even stronger damage resist exotic
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When I went flawless last weekend, I really didn't see anything oppressive other than Void 3.0's gravity affects. Might be because of my odd play style using rally barricades to challenge or hold specific sight lines. On a vaguely related note, I do agree that one shot primaries are evil, but I believe the base damage of Le Monarque and special linears are the problem. Nerf Sunspots and people will use Inertia Override or Empowering Rifts instead.
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Y’all complain about bubble put I’m willing to bet the hunter duskfield exotic far surpasses the armor of light the bubble has.
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13 RepliesTotally agree based on my pvp experience since witch queen. It's a horrible time to be a warlock in pvp.
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3 RepliesEdited by Ryan Foxling: 4/6/2022 7:42:17 AMHow you don't like to play against hunters with 50% resistance to any damage or invis apes with LoW or Titans sitting behind barricades for the entire game, you are probably just bad and don't know how to become multiple times better than your opponents to counter those things
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8 RepliesYou forgot hunter stasis more powerful and effective then any other stasis from a guardian Hunter completely invisible from sight and radar too. Hunters the fasted by far then any guardian which it should also be fasted recovery by warlocks and biggest resilience by titans but it isn't. Hunters are the most dominate in pvp so jog on
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Agreed!
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1 ReplyInb4 the crutchers use mental gymnastics to defend their awful play style that is most def busted.
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1 ReplyI’d give up sunspots and the barricade over-shield for Twilight Garrison. Nerf them all I don’t care. Just take away Icarus dash and give Titans back the sweet salt lick of the Garrison!!!!!
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The hunter gauntlets are only annoying if it's thrown right on top of you, because then you're just dead lmao. If it's thrown anywhere else, just avoid it until it goes away. The titan helmet is strong and can be very lethal with most long range specials and eriana's but again, just stay away from it. Also, they receive zero resist, so just headshot them when they aren't looking. Bubble can be countered in a multitude of ways, but, obviously, it's a super. It's gonna be incredibly strong for anything regarding a capture point. So it's just doing it's job. I do think that capture zone trials should be removed. Void over shield is probably the most annoying of the things you listed here IMO. Free over shield for you and your teammates for 10 seconds that can be regenerated?? Yeah that's dumb. They did nerf it recently to take more damage in pvp so there is that.
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I don't have an issue with titan bubble. It's a super that gets used once per match. Those other things make me angry. That dusk field hunter play is stupid. Do they put any actual thought into this? The one shot titan hat needs dealt with for sure too.
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7 RepliesGet good…
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2 RepliesGo play another game 🤡
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15 RepliesTitan with O/S= shoot the barricade (team shoot) or/and throw grenades. Dusk field, vortex, spikes all work incredibly Duskfield resist… it’s about 15% iirc.. don’t stand in it, if they are in it same thing applies to with the Titan overshield, use grenades and shoot there crystal they also won’t get there grenade back. Titan helmet= I have no idea, if they’re cheesing it your pretty much fukked
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I feel like we will see a shake up in what’s used next trials weekend. The map this time around is just trash for objective trials, of course people are going to play this way lol
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Let’s leave bubble out of the conversation, cause that’s how it’s meant to be used. I can acknowledge the others - hell I was the first one to say that the helmet would be cracked.
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3 RepliesBubble is easy to counter if it’s on the zone, walk into the bubble and snipe them
