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3/25/2022 11:20:44 PM
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Why is Trial Matchmaking sooooooo Bad????

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  • I’ve been gilded flawless multiple times run around 2.0 KD and I’m sorry but all the players say get good you want free wins etc are only saying that because the good players don’t want to be playing teams on the same level every game and have to be playing for hours and hours to achieve flawless. I’m a decent player and even I know the Trials matchmaking is screwed. You can literally play a team on a flawless game on your first game of that card or even a team who have been flawless. While the flawless pool is a good idea should be active straight away too many times I’ve tried to help pve friends to the lighthouse for gilded flawless players to be waiting for the flawless pool for an easy ride or farming elo one win resetting. If you claim to have achieved flawless by getting good then why are flawless players doing this and avoiding other flawless teams? Because you don’t want to have even odds you want to win 5-0 with an 8.0 kd to show off. I feel for the players who just want a fair fight because the good players don’t it that’s simple. I have no doubt these good players will reply with some kind of nonsense but that’s because I’ve hit a nerve and the nail right on the head. Ever seen these top players try to go flawless in the flawless pool I don’t think so. They do there gilding and never play in it again bar maybe the top 5% of players.

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  • It's absolutely disgusting that PvP has been such a poor experience for so many of it's players simply because they don't understand how to balance lobbies. Stop putting 3 well below average solos on zero wins against premade elite teams with gilded flawless titles. Nothing ruins a gaming experience quite like that, match after match, week after week. I played with 2 other solos tonight both under 1530 power against a 3 stack running full sweat mode over us.

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    • Edited by reenry: 3/26/2022 10:57:43 AM
      See. I hate crucible players that need to understand something. Trials is the highest skill, most competitive mode in Crucible and all of Destiny. There will be sweats, and you will eventually lose. Please do not blame matchmaking, please do no blame the little amount of cheaters that is a common excuse for a lack of skill. I’ve said this since suggestion. Trials freelance will make trials incredibly easy or incredibly rng, no skill involved. If you want to progress your card, let alone flawless git gud and teammates git gud. I remember first week trials of the nine, absolutel sweat feast and had to grind. Got it tho. Use a meta and use the sweatiest things ever, because the opponent wont care.

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      • Why are McDonald’s Fries so bad now???

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        • I'm not the best player, last to say I'm great. Simply o.k. However the only mode worth playing is comp. All other matchmaking sucks d. Trials: supposed to be based on wins on your passage. Meanwhile it's Sunday, I've never been flawless still only have one win on it and somehow I'm still playing flawless players with glowing armor. So -blam!- broken. Meanwhile in comp. No problems getting 12 win streak.

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          • Notice how its always bad players that think the MM is bad 😂

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            • i wish we could go back to matchmaking by wins that was a awesome weekend. i also wish bungie would ban every account on xbox LFG that advertise trial services cause they are aids to the community. do it for free with a carry or don't do it at all.

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              • Trials is a hard core pvp mode created to challenge the best pvp players in the game. While Bungie has made it easier for players to play Trials they will only hold your hand so far. If you want to go to the Lighthouse you have to prove you are worthy by defeating all opposition no matter what skill level they are and no matter what skill level your team mates are. If you do not like this then as a wise man once said "if you can not take the heat stay away from the fire".... on other words play other pvp game modes and stay away from Trials.

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                • Cause bungo doesn't wanna make the youtubers mad if they made them play against other sweat stacks.

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                  • Its intentional. Its how they feed the publicity. Gove all the tryhards the new people so they feelike they accomplished something then get on youtube and talk how cool d2 is. Poece of -blam!- out of balance game

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                  • It isn’t really competitive so don’t take it serious. Just get the loot and bounce.

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                  • For some reason I’m guessing it’s not the trials mm.

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                  • People with cronus max controllers using mods for no recoil and a bunch of other wrongful things Bungie will not fix is the reason why we keep having crappy gameplay.

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                    • Because someone has to lose?

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                    • Dead game that’s why

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                      • Edited by Lord Araphel: 3/26/2022 8:19:40 AM
                        I don't see how trials matchmaking is bad unless you go in solo. If you go in with a premade team lost thats not a matchmaking issue thats a skill and cohesion problem. I stay out of trials because the only ones in there are elo farmers and pros plus there isn't anything worth my time or the headache of trials. Stop playing trials if you want change lest you feed into the bull.

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                      • Because the matchmaking pool keeps getting smaller and smaller? 🤔 Bare minimum Trails only has around 1,000,000 accounts (roughly) that can even queue for Trials. (You need the current xpac to even do it) We all know that some of those million copies are people buying it for alts/back ups for hacked accounts. Plus we also know that a sizable chunk of those that bought it are NEVER going to even touch PvP, not even for the pinnacle, let alone Trials. Plus the first weekend of the Trials loot rework had the record for the most players (750,000 roughly iirc) ever since then it’s continually declining. Also iirc, someone a few days ago posted that roughly only 300k-750k players were playing PvP last week. And that’s across ALL platforms. And that’s just regular PvP (apparently the higher number also included gambit) let alone Trials. So the simple answer of why it sucks. There is always a winner and always a loser and the match pool is continually shrinking.

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                        • Edited by SILLABYSS: 3/26/2022 8:23:53 PM
                          [quote]Title[/quote] Better players. PvP in this game is flawed. There is no actual incentive to get better than beyond stomping newbs and casuals. There is a skill plateau as soon as you get good enough to defeat the worst in the game. Because your wins aren’t ever against legitimate opponents- as soon as those players rise to your level, you’re exposed. And the matches get “harder” Because you’re used to just stomping everything.

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                          • Just do what I did, go into trials, get the loot you want, and leave the entire mode for the sweats until the end of time. Trying to go flawless for a pointless seal and weapons with slightly better stats isn't worth it at all.

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                          • Pvp is just bad

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                          • Ive seen nothing weird. Did a couple games yesterday, had some tough matchs and some easy ones. Seems pretty okay to me. If you feel like matchmaking is an issue in trials for you try to do something on your side too as if you just expect matchmaking to suddenly change and make you win trials games...you will probably see destiny 4 released before it happens XD

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                          • im starting to think the cheaters are on the rise and bungie doesnt have the balls to do anything about it

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                              [quote]Title[/quote] Regular crucible has probably the worse matchmaking in the entire fps genre. And I’m not saying that just to hate. There are games with 20K players a day and u have closer, more balanced games than destiny’s 690k player base a day. With matchmaking this atrocious can u really expect a game mode that’s only had 158K players as of this post and only 51K in the last hour to be good? I mean destiny matchmaking is crap, of course the game mode with 78% less players is gonna be god awful for anyone not in the top 10% of players. To emphasize how bad crucible is, the end of last season (which was 6 months!) ended with around 780K players a day in crucible. We are barely a month into the new season and crucible is sitting at 695K. we have already lost almost 100K players in crucible since last season and over a half million since the start of the season. And players aren’t necessary leaving the game. Pve still has over 920K players. About 100K more than the end of last season. I got on for the first time in about two weeks played 2-3 games of crucible and immediately quit. I’ll stick with elden ring where I stay on the same boss for 3 hours only to lose again than play 20 min of crucible. I can win 6 crucible games in a row with every game being 2.0+KD and still not have fun. Anymore crucible has two types of games. Super easy might as well be mercy win or absolutely crushed might as well be mercy loss. Neither are fun. Since the removal of SBMM my overall KD has gone from a 0.85 to a 1.07 and quickplay went from a .9 to a 1.12. Unpopular opinion but i hate that. Despite that top players claim Others want SBMM for “easier games”. Games were harder with SBMM, but everyone had a shot to do well. Now I just farm less skilled players. Not on purpose, destiny matchmaking puts them in my lobbies. And for perspective I need over a 1,000 kills without a single death for my KD to go up by 0.01 when I was a 0.9 I need 690 kills without a single death. I want harder games that feels like all players contribute. I’ll gladly take a hit on my KD if that means someone on my team isn’t hating the game because they got a 0.3 and feels like they did nothing but hurt the team every single game. Give me games that almost always end in a 10-20 point difference where every player mattered. Not who’s team top player can farm faster.

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                              • Edited by NYDIBS: 3/26/2022 5:40:49 AM
                                It’s like I forgot how to play pvp in one week Prior to this weekly reset I was killing it (by my standards) Had a 1.4 kd in trials the first weekend. Averaging a 2.3+ kda for the season, 2.5+ in iron banner And then the reset hit and I can’t seem to go positive in any crucible format. My shots aren’t registering, I’ve been terrible all week and my trials kd is a 0.6 this weekend which is about half of what it’s been throughout me playing trials I literally just want to uninstall the game with how poor my pvp experience has been this week

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                              • Because nobody want to play it and mist peoples probaly wait for next week 2x rank

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                              • Cuz they don’t care about the game. You have 2kd loser restring their cards when they shouldn’t be able too and go in a crush people

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