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12/20/2021 8:47:43 AM
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Feels like PVP is just a hunters game these days.
When you are seeing teams made up solely of hunters and mostly golden gun hunters, you know something is broken.
What is broken is Bungie constantly making stupid calls around PVP. Constantly giving hunters the upper hand in PVP with one hit kill abilities and all the other gypsy crap they get.
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1 Reply100% but you’ll just get downvoted into oblivion because the majority players will just defend their crutch and call you a newb at the same time. Don’t even get started on how broken stompees are
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1 ReplyBecause Bungie just nerfed ALL of the game's ability cooldowns into the ground....and then gave Hunter supers the shortest cooldowns in PVP on average. So the sandbox right now is **heavily** tilted in favor of the agility and gun-skill buffs that Hunters get because of their class. Even more tilted than it usually is.
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21 RepliesI love the hunter class but like you said, most people in pvp are hunters. Why is that? Simple: powerful jumps, dodge mechanic, and a few decent shutdown supers. It’s the primary pvp subclass. But I’m really hoping that when the void subclass 3.0 arrives, the night stalker will get some love. When I go hunter, I go void always.
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Edited by Ambo: 12/26/2021 8:08:35 PMThe sandbox team consists of hunter mains who hate the other classes. Also they refuse to give 140 handcannons and main ingredient a proper nerf.
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2 RepliesNah I clap these garbage hunters and their dirty cloaks everyday. Warlocks and titans have a chance.
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13 RepliesBeen like that since vanilla D1 and won't ever change. If hunters weren't the end all be all then this game would die and bungie would go out of business. Their livelihoods depend on keeping hunter rejects happy.
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7 RepliesEdited by Melinda1990: 12/22/2021 12:27:17 PMI got a pvp godroll Eyasluna with rangefinder and moving target, my energy weapon is Jötunn. Now I can enjoy pvp 😂 (warlock).
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3 RepliesOver 50 percent of active players are hunters, that's why.
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13 RepliesThe jump and dodge is the ideal build. The dodge itself needs another nerf
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3 RepliesHunters are like HCs. Always top dog in PvP.
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4 RepliesWhat? When was Goldie ever overpowered? You guys complain about everything you don't want to learn to deal with.
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1 ReplyThis post lacks originality. Down vote.
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2 RepliesWTF do you mean by [i]gypsy crap[/i]?
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2 RepliesHunter have the highest population so you see them more frequently. I as a warlock main think that dawnblade is kinda op though.
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5 RepliesHunter + shotgun
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1 ReplyI think surely we can all agree that Hunters have an edge in PvP. HOWEVER... Warlocks have an edge in PvE. And Titans sit inbetween. The thing is, this 'edge'... Its negligible. Yes, a Hunters kit is more useful in PvP, but that doesnt stop me going Flawless every weekend, even against triple stompees. Hunter mains for PvE still get by without rifts: They can turn to invis builds, assassins cowl etc to still solo flawless dungeons. Basically, sure, some classes have a bit of an advantage... But just deal with it. I'd love to bash Hunters as a Warlock main, but if they're beating you, even when using all the Hunter tricks, they probably are better. Don't tear them down... Find your strengths, and use them.
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2 RepliesI've seen the opposite. I've seen less Hunters than usual, but more top tree Dawns than ever.
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1 ReplyInvisible Hunters with sniper all day long, especially in trails, is what i see the most. I thought bungie tuned down the whole ability spam? 🤔
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1 Reply"these days"
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1 ReplySo, fun facts from a guy whose played this game since Y1 D1, people have literally always complained about hunters. Back when warlocks were literal Jesus plus a roaming super with 1 shot fusion grenades, back when Titans could infinitely 1 shot shoulder charge and lightning grenades would kill if you took any damage. People complained about Hunters and said their class sucked because they kept losing. The issue is Skill translation, Hunters are like playing a normal FPS character but better, they jump good, their abilities are about shooting and moving, it’s great for players coming from other FPSs because hunters feel natural. Thus on average a more FPS focused player will simply play Hunter; the inverse, that hunters make better players is nonsense. Titans and Warlocks feel, move and work different than any other FPS game character I know of. So what translates is accuracy with gunplay [i][b]but not ability usage[/b][/i], this is important in a game about space magic where abilities are incredibly important. But an experienced FPS player will conclude, incorrectly, Titans and Warlocks are “worse”, or alternatively “don’t feel right”. Titans and Warlocks right now are significantly more powerful than Hunters (I have played all three for at least several hundred hours each, but have been playing Hunter since D1 because I thought invis was cool as hell and jump felt familiar), but on average, less experienced FPS players main them regularly. This combined with players aren’t going to just quit playing a class (in this case their hunters) they put hundreds or thousands of hours of work into because it got nerfed heavily and happens to be weaker. It creates an odd disparity where a less experienced FPS player playing a stronger class loses very consistently to a much more experienced FPS player playing a now weaker class. This leads to the incorrect conclusion that the weaker class needs to be even weaker and the stronger class even stronger. I’m not advocating nerfs/buffs (Time will tell if my assessment of hunters is correct), only understanding that the Hunters vs the World argument is more complex than at first glance.
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13 RepliesThought it was common knowledge that hunters are Bungie favorite class, then titans, and they never really liked warlocks 🤷
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2 RepliesI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: People play hunters because of triple jump. Not advocating nerfs of anything. In fact I’d say make the platforming more enjoyable on the other two.
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11 RepliesMy only issue with Hunters in PvP is their jump. I would trade Blink for double jump in a heartbeat.
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8 RepliesHunters by numbers.. Not player skill. The only annoying hunters are your invis and wall hacking hunters of which are not nearly in high usage vs the other classes… yet. The populace of your average players take a while to catch onto cheese. But if you are losing, it is not because of a hunter class. They are the glass houses of the game.. Learn your chosen class and what type of player you are combating. Just because there is a large number of hunters does not mean they are carrying the games… it just means most players do not like to think much and have basic mechanics to have fun. Warlocks and titans are your higher skilled players. Ie less of them. Just like how a huge number of players are average or less on hunters.. there are lower skilled players on warlocks and titans just in smaller numbers. Skill is the player, not the class or weapons. It is the players abilities to use the toolsets given to them that determines their skill. You could take what you think is the op class, hunter, and go against a higher skilled player.. and they will not only heat you with any class.. heck they can even do it with blue level weapons. Stop blaming things that kill you. Who cares how many numbers there are? It is still skill vs skill. People just think skill means something it does not. So I would look inward if you are not successful with your class. I have been a hunter main for the better part of d2.. I am average at best in PvP.. And I can assure you, players that are higher skilled are not having issues with me because I am on a hunter.. And enough people have watched enough high skilled players play any class with any weapons and not suffer due to chosen classes. Players have more pride issues on how they die vs what is actually broken in this game.
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9 Repliesweird it feels like im facing only top tree dawnblades lately
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1 ReplyIs that why Bungie said that TTD warlocks were statistically the best pvp subclass in the game even with pre nerf shatterdive? Weird...
