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12/20/2021 6:03:27 AM
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AI guardians

So we already seen in past content and current content what the AI are capable of doing in the game. Since witch queen is planning on adding in the hive guardians I had the idea of why not allow people to truly solo 3 man activities. If you went into a dungeon and wanted to do it solo it can be a little difficult so if you were able to take your main in there and was given the chance to select your 2 other guardians as your own guardian ai teammates then things could be very different. The idea is a very big ask, but I just figured it would be a good thing to share on here in case something like this is truly possible in the future. Hope to see if anyone has feedback on this idea.

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  • Edited by Xero: 12/20/2021 10:04:03 PM
    I would say to first take a look at any moment on planets where "the enemy is moving against each other". Try to watch them without triggering their aggro. Then understand that in that moment, that is the extent of the AI's "environmental understanding" if that makes sense. Sure things will vary if we were able to command them accordingly. But after watching for a while, ask if one still thinks this is something that can be implemented, or can make sense in content that is designed for 3 human players to co-ordinate together. I don't think it would work for anything labelled endgame initially. Too mechanical, and probably too much work for Bungie too watch over and see how it's learning. Dungeons and Raids would be a no-go by the time you hit a boss, I'd imagine. So, again, probably a lot of work needed. Now unless WQ has some AI revamp around the corner that we don't know of, then that's different, and will be interesting to see. But I'd like to think it's just a new input or two being put in and the attack style being different to have things [i]feel[/i] overall new. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      Just bring back the memory of Timur ,then you can make any redbar enemy your friend for 30 seconds

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      • This is a fantastic idea, don't listen to all these people perfectly fine living in a glass is half empty, stagnant game. Unfortunately, bungie hasn't the desire or ability to something like this, would be great though...

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      • How would this work? This seems like a lot of work for little to no effect, +that would make too many bugs and possibly content soft locking bugs

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        • Could just use lfg, wouldn’t take much longer than just loading up into the dungeon

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        • There already is AI guardians, you should see how many we encounter in trials and crucible in general, the bots are all black usually have stompees and behave the same, they can be in packs of 3 or in individual groups.

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          • Or at least give us the bots like in this one europa lost sector

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          • This is a very interesting idea. While I do think that it would be great, it would be very hard to do, especially since the AI is pretty bad at fighting itself. Having 2 of the races fight, wether fallen against vex like on Europa, is very bad to watch. It could be 10 minutes before they killed a single enemy of the other side. Also, on another note, it’s very hard to simulate how people interact with each other. Coordinating supers for example. Strategies for certain bosses, or even having a hunter use invisibility on all 3 people at the right time would be super hard to program and put in the game. If Bungie could somehow do this, I would be completely down for it. Sorry for the big walls of text

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            • A.I? They are program to follow a path or stay in place and shoots You want them to do puzzle and jump around? That's A bit much

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            • Yeees! I wish to take my head canon fireteam on a campaign mission.

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            • Its a Very kool idea and i like the fact it could be our own created characters with us and considering the light powers are being used by the enemy Ai in witchqueen its possible to program the same Ai to be freindly i always thought battle pets would have been a good addition but it never happened there was rumours way back

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            • Cool idea.

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            • Edited by Bertram253: 12/20/2021 6:32:42 AM
              You raise a very interesting point. Just to add my 2 cents here, nothing more: I honestly do believe they thought about it but then change the idea to AI enemy guardians instead because of the "make friends" to play end-game activity pillar they have. As far as I know, the social aspect of MMOs is the main reason people stay long term in a game and would they further break that, maybe people would do less lfg and so on. Also, still thinking about it, if we could have AI guardian, people would then start requesting specifying which set of guardians and slowly but surely people would load up activities with their AI team and no more with other people. That's why I don't think it won't happen on end game activities. On the other hand, when server numbers are low, they could use ai guardian to speed up matchmaking, or provide very low KD player a fun experience. Cheers,

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              • Would the game really be all that good at performing everything that guardians can do? Especially the Titans. That would definitely be some AI right there.

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