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10/27/2010 1:49:09 AM
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Why is Colonel pronounced curnul
I've always wondered, can someone explain. Like I know ph makes f- but Idk were the R noise comes from.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xI Insidious Ix [quote][b]Source:[/b] [url]http://www.word-origins.com/definition/colonel.html[/url] [b]Colonel[/b] Date of Origin: 17th C. Historically, a colonel was so called because he commanded the company at the head of a regiment, known in Italian as the [i]compagna colonnella[/i], literally the 'little-column company'; hence the commander himself took the title [i]colonnella[/i], which is descended from Latin [i]columna[/i] 'pillar' (source of English [i]column[/i]). It appears first to have entered English via French in the form [i]coronel[/i], in which the first [i]i[/i] had mutated to r. Spellings with this [i]r[/i] occur in English from the 17th and 18th centuries, and it is the source of the word's modern pronunciation. [i]Colonel[/i] represents a return to the original Italian spelling.[/quote][/quote] Which is basically what I posted on page 2 and everyone ignored anyway...
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[quote][b]Source:[/b] [url]http://www.word-origins.com/definition/colonel.html[/url] [b]Colonel[/b] Date of Origin: 17th C. Historically, a colonel was so called because he commanded the company at the head of a regiment, known in Italian as the [i]compagna colonnella[/i], literally the 'little-column company'; hence the commander himself took the title [i]colonnella[/i], which is descended from Latin [i]columna[/i] 'pillar' (source of English [i]column[/i]). It appears first to have entered English via French in the form [i]coronel[/i], in which the first [i]i[/i] had mutated to r. Spellings with this [i]r[/i] occur in English from the 17th and 18th centuries, and it is the source of the word's modern pronunciation. [i]Colonel[/i] represents a return to the original Italian spelling.[/quote]
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I remember in Halo 3 a kid argued with me the whole game saying I'm to young to understand how it's pronounced and that it was ca-lone-al. He was such an idiot X D.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GREX I've kind of wondered that too. Yet another oddity of the English language. But I swear at the end of Winter Contingency, Kat pronounces it as Col-eh-nell Holland. [/quote] The link to dictionary.com explains it, but I'll also explain why I think it's like that. L and R make a similar sound. Make both sounds in your mouth and it feels similar; your tongue goes to the same area in your mouth. Ever wonder why japanese sometimes get the L and R sounds mixed up? Well, now you know. Now, say Colonel with the L instead of an R sound, just like Kat did (because she has a russian-ish accent). Say it fast, cuh-lin-ahl. Keep saying it over and over and slowly transition the L sound to an R sound. You'll see how there's not much of a difference, in the end. In reality, the English chose to adopt one existing form of the word in pronunciation, but spelled it in the other form. At least, that's what I got from Dictionary.com's explanation.
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Kinda like how a "c" can sound like an "s"? I don't know why, but my stupid friend pronounces it "Call-in-el". It makes me wanna punch him in the face. I have serious English problems. I can't stand people who misspell, mispronounciate, or use bad grammar. It drives me crazy.
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This is one of the reasons why English is one of the most difficult languages to learn. There are so many exceptions and inconsistencies with the rules.
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Kat says it like 'col-en-el' [Edited on 10.26.2010 7:35 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] STINKY 1790 THIS SHOULD BE OFF TOPIC![/quote]Its relevant because Lt. Colonel is one of the most relevant topics on here.
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THIS SHOULD BE OFF TOPIC!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GREX I've kind of wondered that too. Yet another oddity of the English language. But I swear at the end of Winter Contingency, Kat pronounces it as Col-eh-nell Holland. [/quote] Her accent maybe? To me her accent sounds slightly russian.
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because my gamertag is purposefully spelled wrong.
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Uh... we don't pronounce Colonel as Left-Tenant...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GREX I've kind of wondered that too. Yet another oddity of the English language. But I swear at the end of Winter Contingency, Kat pronounces it as Col-eh-nell Holland. [/quote] It has to do with her accent. They mentioned it in the Legendary Commentary video. [Edited on 10.26.2010 6:42 PM PDT]
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depends on where you are from most foreigners pronounce it Kolenal because thats the literal way of saying it, while most english speakers decide to be either lazy or different and go Kernel its fine either way because its identifiable either way
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For the same reason bologna is pronounced the way it is. English is a weird language.
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Just like how "flood" is pronounced "flud." English is a stupid language.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fudgie117 Yeah Like Colonel Flanders at KFC[/quote] Colonel SANDERS..........
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Irongam3r [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Patricio NY [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RedBob2400 its better than French though[/quote]Don't say that, French is a beast language, I take it,[/quote]Francais est assez bien, mais je ne comprends pas pourquoi il y a tous les regles de grammaire et des verbes si il y a plus des exceptions que les mots qui sont "regulaires". C'est penible, mais... meh [/quote]Yeah the grammar and accents suck, I just took a test yesterday. I'm pretty sure I aced it except for the grammar section which was the subjunctive, pretty ghey.
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it just is. but it sounds like kat says colonel the way it looks.
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Wrong. It is Cawlenal. Or that's what Kat thinks, at least.
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It probably has to do with the origin of Colonel. I suspect Middle French is the likely culprit of why.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Patricio NY [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RedBob2400 its better than French though[/quote]Don't say that, French is a beast language, I take it,[/quote]Francais est assez bien, mais je ne comprends pas pourquoi il y a tous les regles de grammaire et des verbes si il y a plus des exceptions que les mots qui sont "regulaires". C'est penible, mais... meh
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Because Engrish is phunny.
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Actually, the reason that Lieutenant is pronounced Leftenant is because the French word for Lieutenant used be be spelt as Lief a few hundred years ago, then they made the switch for some reason and Lief stuck around the British empire and her colonies. Some language historians believe that the military in particular used Leftenant because of the concept that a leader's right hand mand would be on the right, and the lieutenant would be on the left (left behind) when the commander was not present. But that sounds pretty fanish to me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RedBob2400 its better than French though[/quote]Don't say that, French is a beast language, I take it,
