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9/25/2021 5:45:01 AM
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A solo perspective on trials
90% of matches against 3 stacks
Coin flip on competent teammates
No loot left to chase
Solo flawless pretty impossible
Why would I keep playing this?
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I'm not even that good and went Flawless twice. Try an off meta strategy and constantly change your tactics every round.
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Teammates don’t know what an obj is, don’t know how to get a kill with a super, get a free Rez etc I thought it was sbmm?
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Edited by WWF98bc: 9/27/2021 4:53:29 PMThey really need to improve matchmaking to focus solo players to play against each other more often.
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14 RepliesEdited by WildFireVR: 9/25/2021 4:26:28 PMAs a solo player this wasn't my experience at all yesterday. Went flawless for the first time & only faced two 3 stacks surprisingly & beat them both. Trials feels good for me this week, the objective focus actually helps imo because it opens up some more gameplay options that previous weren't a thing. The previous weeks I was getting stomped by better players in 3 stacks, usually running some toxic combo of HC/Shottie & shatterdive. Shatterdive is still the biggest problem imo, got killed out of my super again with it, I hate the whole narrative of "oh if you can't avoid it you're just bad"... The hunters movement advantage is so massive that you almost can't not get hit by it. Anyway trials felt good for me yesterday, I didn't get matched up against as many diamond Elo players as usual, &had a good run. Freelance will obviously be better but so far the changes are great imo & at least they're trying, which is more than this pathetic, whining, petulant, disgusting community deserves. Edit: for full clarity before the nerds start going through my game history and starting some -blam!-. I was running solo, had a good game with a guy on my team in my 3rd game, and then we linked up for the rest of the run, but we weren't on mics or anything, so it was still basically a solo experience...I just did the same -blam!- I'd do if I was fully solo, follow the best player around revive, try to team shot & mainly ptfo.
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Almost all matches were fireteam Vs solos which was ridiculous. Add in leave penalties and it was worse. And when then remove the visibility of the guardians matched so 1 / 6 jumping to 4 / 6 (solo Vs 3 stack) it'll be worse still. Even if that stops fireteams waiting for 4/6 or 5/6 it actually will take more benefit away than it will exploitation. But it's solo exploitative all the way. Here's the TWAB on the major reason they even included the hundreds of thousands soloplaying in Trials: "And more importantly, it increased the population enough that fireteams of mid-skilled players landed more wins than if they only matched against other mid-skilled or high-skilled teams. Solo players are a key to the entire system working." That's solos being precisely set up to be farmed. That's a LOT of the Destiny community - 34% of the pool in the first week - to be used in this way. Worse yet, when they say "Solo players are a key to the entire system working." and Freelance being only offered in Crucible Labs it makes me believe they've already planned that Freelance isn't going to be permanently offered. If they think solos Vs teams is sustainable via throwing scraps from the table at us then they've massively miscalculated in my estimation.
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3 RepliesI am one of the people that suck, and I am sorry if you got matched with me or one of the many other players that suck. Fwiw, and you probably dont care, but it is even less fun for us. Here is a fun game mode, with cool gear, and (in my case) it is impossible to play. Its no fun getting wiped out repeatedly, and knowing that i am the reason why. Last week after a few losses i started getting matched with other players of my skill level, it was fun, I felt like i was contributing, i felt like i stood a chance… Now its back to being a dead weight, ruining other players flawless cards, and feeling miserable… So, well, who cares right…
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Last week I played solo and unlocked the full armor sets for both my hunter and warlock. Something I would’ve never done otherwise. No clue what Trials is like this week. I don’t have a good feeling about the zone control.
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Short-term? Loot. Long-term? Uh….well….shucks…..🤔 Once again, Trials is showing its fundamental design flaw. It’s a predatory game mode. Where you turn Wolves loose on Sheep. But how do you get the sheep to keep showing up for the slaughter each week? Bungie made a good step in the right direction to improve things. But they still have a ways to go before they turn Trials into a healthy, stable experience. And that won’t be found in being exclusionary and predatory.
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2 RepliesWhy would anyone strive for a solo flawless if you aren’t even that good
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Ok on the one hand yes on the other hand I went 5-0 on a confidence card solo before losing the flawless on game 6 when I joined a fireteam 🤔
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Coin flip? I played 3 matches and had 2 teammates that weren't window lickers... tried it, still hated it.
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2 RepliesI played four games, lost two because my teammates suck, quit two because my teammates quit and got banned lol. I immediately closed the game and I'm done for the week ... such a high quality experience.
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Freelance trials!
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8 Replies[quote]Why would I keep playing this?[/quote] I really just sat for a second and tried to come up with a reason why a solo player would play that. Even high skilled players would have a hard time soloing with the way it was today. I was hoping to at least carry a 40% win rate but over the course of 20 matches I ended up with 30%. No one is going to be satisfied with 30% after they get the pinnacle rounds done. Some people might not even make it to that. I'm sure there's got to be some people playing solo that are doing fine though. A lot of my teams were just completely uncoordinated. I think I might have got myself put in the dunce pool after we lost a match we were supposed to win.
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I agree. The current structure of Trials has no longevity for a solo player. I've pretty much got everything I want from trials, no need to keep coming back to get pub stomped.
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Edited by Infamous067: 9/25/2021 10:03:33 PMOnce you get the god rolls for the regular weapons you actually don’t need to waste your time anymore. At least for a solo player
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4 Replies[quote]90% of matches against 3 stacks Coin flip on competent teammates Solo flawless pretty impossible[/quote] I both [i]know[/i] and [i]expect[/i] this when I go to to trials solo. If I wanted a better chance of going flawless, I'm [i]going[/i] to look for a fireteam [i]improve[/i] 2 of the 3 conditions I've quoted of yours. Just saying.
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I use the Messenger. Mainly because it's my highest level primary. Otherwise I'd probably just be using the New Monarchy pulse or a HC as a daily driver. The other weapons are ok I suppose. They work. There's nothing really that I'd be chasing given how awful the grind is.
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Yeah, I already have a god roll on three of the weapons, and solid rolls on the rest, I'm getting some solid armor for my warlock and only need a good chest piece, such a great feeling to know that unless they bring back the summoner, I'll never have to play this toxic trash ever again lol
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11 RepliesEdited by MrNiceGuy: 9/25/2021 7:54:21 PMWent solo flawless every weekend so far and ive done 2 carries. You're just bad and/or impatient. All my flawless runs were done by my 2nd card tho
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I have no clue why, but when I 3 stacked this weekend it was literally all solos and the occasional 2 stack. Once I started going solo to get some engrams, it was all 3 stacks every single game
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I went solo flawless and confident i can do it again, but I'm not the best player out there. I also disagree, the loot in many cases are the best in the game
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This seasons first weekend of trials was probably the best for solos with the giant player pool. Once they split the playlist of flawless and none flawless players it made it impossible for normal solo players to farm anything. They could add a solo que only playlist bit I don't think they'll do that for the sake of making it easier for teams. And it would split the pop into 3 groups. Flawless, none flawless, and solos. I think they should have just left it alone.
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Must b me but I found trials ok sure I was between 20-30 light level under powered and I'm only ok at PvP but I managed 7 wins sure I lost billion times mostly against highest light level teams mostly got full teams at 6 wins but I love the challenge And satisfaction of beating higher level players I Neva been max light Eva since I played game and I probably Neva will
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6 RepliesInteresting game mode. Having fun but I’d like to see Freelance que again.
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…and that’s why this is still not sustainable long term. The structure of Trials itself prevents Bungie from making the matches truly competitive. If the odds against going flawless a second time go to being 128-to-1….or worse? Again, who’s going to play. Like I said when they announced the changes: Big step in the right direction but just doesn’t go far enough.
