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10/25/2010 2:05:47 AM
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The last Elite in Lone Wolf is the Arbiter *PROOF*

In the cutscene where noble 6 is dying, the last elite where you can only see his feet, is in fact, the arbiter? The Arbiter always wields his energy sword in his left hand. Only the arbiter and Rtas 'Vadum wield their energy sword in their left hand. The last elite bares his sword in his left hand. Lazy people here you go - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmBLwoAB4oM]0:44. The elite at the end. You never see his armor and you only see his left foot[/url] [Edited on 10.24.2010 7:24 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shade090 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.[/quote] I'm sure he took time away as Supreme Commander of a fleet that is charged with intercepting fleeing human vessels to travel down to the planet and watch another Elite kill a single Spartan. [/quote]Maybe he killed 6 himself? Why would he ignite his energy sword as the zealot that "Supposedly" stabbed 6 after the zealot made his action. [/quote] Another assumption. You have no proof that Elite did anything worth while, let alone that that Elite was an important character. [/quote]Proof of my theory. Now please, step aside.[/quote] I don't think you know what the word "proof" means, mate. I also like it how you don't want to debate with anyone that actively disproves your ludicrous claim. Anyhow, I'm done arguing with this tribute to logical fallacy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom So you're saying that only two Elites in the ENTIRE RACE can be a lefty? Keep tryin' detective.[/quote]Only 3 elites in the trilogy were lefties. You keep trying.[/quote] Oh, my mistake! That makes perfect sense! Only THREE Elites in an entire race are left-handed! There OBVIOUSLY can't be any more than that. That would be silly. Statistically, it makes sense. Congratulations! [/quote] I certainly will not stop posting. You posted a thread with a HUGE claim, said you had proof, but only showed up with a flimsy piece of conjecture. Now, perhaps there is reason to [i]suspect[/i] that this particular Elite is the Arbiter, but you failed to actually show proof, despite the thread's title. Left-handed? That's all you're going on? I thought I was going to have my mind blown.[/quote]Well obviously I didn't blow anyone's mind, but I don't need you starting crap as I'm already arguing with many other people.[/quote] Me? I believe you started this whole debacle by making such a huge claim, then not delivering! Perhaps if your tone wasn't so definitive, people wouldn't tear it apart? You could have said you had "reason to believe that it could be the Arbiter." But you didn't, you said it was PROOF. I concede the idea is interesting, but that's really all anyone can say with the "evidence" presented. [Edited on 10.24.2010 7:39 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fastfriggate [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] In SorteDiaboIi no video, no screenshot, no other sort of valid 'proof' to be found. So fail theory is fail.[/quote] As is the album your profile is named after.[/quote] A music album may share my username/former gamertag, but that is where the similarities end. My name is for the latin translation, not a sad music album. Thanks for trying to flame me though. @ the second quoter, it wasn't in the OP, I couldn't be bothered to fish through anymore of the thread when there wasn't any substantial evidence in the very first post when I first read it. So thanks to you to, for an attempt to flame.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shade090 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.[/quote] I'm sure he took time away as Supreme Commander of a fleet that is charged with intercepting fleeing human vessels to travel down to the planet and watch another Elite kill a single Spartan. [/quote] i said a while ago that Thel may have had time to do this before the Autumn left the atmosphere. and again.. A TON OF HONOR. to not at least be there to witness the death of such an important foe would possibly dishonor his name.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shade090 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.[/quote] I'm sure he took time away as Supreme Commander of a fleet that is charged with intercepting fleeing human vessels to travel down to the planet and watch another Elite kill a single Spartan. [/quote]Maybe he killed 6 himself? Why would he ignite his energy sword as the zealot that "Supposedly" stabbed 6 after the zealot made his action. [/quote] Another assumption. You have no proof that Elite did anything worth while, let alone that that Elite was an important character. [/quote]Proof of my theory. Now please, step aside.

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  • Can be true.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shade090 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.[/quote] I'm sure he took time away as Supreme Commander of a fleet that is charged with intercepting fleeing human vessels to travel down to the planet and watch another Elite kill a single Spartan. [/quote]Maybe he killed 6 himself? Why would he ignite his energy sword as the zealot that "Supposedly" stabbed 6 after the zealot made his action. [/quote] Another assumption. You have no proof that Elite did anything worth while, let alone that that Elite was an important character.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] U g0t 0wn3d 69 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chojin613 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] U g0t 0wn3d 69 If you played Halo Wars, you should remember that the Arbiter wielded two energy swords. Halo Wars is after reach, might not be connected in anyway, but just trying to shed some light on the topic. [/quote] Halo Wars was set in 2531, not 2552 like Reach. If you look at the cutscene where you see them open the Relic, you will see that the Arbiter in Halo Wars ([url=http://ascendantjustice.com/files/voc/thel/thel02.jpg]Ripa 'Moramee[/url] voiced by David Sobolov) looks different from the Arbiter in Halo 2, onwards ([url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090627222637/halo/images/d/d0/Thel_%60Vadam_Tranparent.png]Thel 'Vadamee[/url] voiced by Keith David)[/quote] Thanks for being the third person to tell me I screwed up, I appreciate it /sarcasm. I fixed my post by the way..[/quote] In case you hadn't noticed, the post I quoted was unedited, meaning I did this before you changed it. I wasn't nasty about it, I merely pointed it out it a calm way. Thank you for responding in an equally calm manner [/sarcasm]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom So you're saying that only two Elites in the ENTIRE RACE can be a lefty? Keep tryin' detective.[/quote]Only 3 elites in the trilogy were lefties. You keep trying.[/quote] Oh, my mistake! That makes perfect sense! Only THREE Elites in an entire race are left-handed! There OBVIOUSLY can't be any more than that. That would be silly. Statistically, it makes sense. Congratulations! [/quote] I certainly will not stop posting. You posted a thread with a HUGE claim, said you had proof, but only showed up with a flimsy piece of conjecture. Now, perhaps there is reason to [i]suspect[/i] that this particular Elite is the Arbiter, but you failed to actually show proof, despite the thread's title. Left-handed? That's all you're going on? I thought I was going to have my mind blown.[/quote]Well obviously I didn't blow anyone's mind, but I don't need you starting crap as I'm already arguing with many other people.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shade090 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.[/quote] I'm sure he took time away as Supreme Commander of a fleet that is charged with intercepting fleeing human vessels to travel down to the planet and watch another Elite kill a single Spartan. [/quote]Maybe he killed 6 himself? Why would he ignite his energy sword as the zealot that "Supposedly" stabbed 6 after the zealot made his action.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Boyle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 Also [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=24636354]what is this[/url]. Its a right hand![/quote] Just gona repeat this so people notice.[/quote] got em.[/quote]I'm not talking about Arby primarily holding it in his left. He wielded it with his left in some cutscenes.[/quote] And by "some", you mean one. Anyway, I thought you said he "always" wielded it in the left hand.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RxPhantom So you're saying that only two Elites in the ENTIRE RACE can be a lefty? Keep tryin' detective.[/quote]Only 3 elites in the trilogy were lefties. You keep trying.[/quote] Oh, my mistake! That makes perfect sense! Only THREE Elites in an entire race are left-handed! There OBVIOUSLY can't be any more than that. That would be silly. Statistically, it makes sense. Congratulations! [/quote] I certainly will not stop posting. You posted a thread with a HUGE claim, said you had proof, but only showed up with a flimsy piece of conjecture. Now, perhaps there is reason to [i]suspect[/i] that this particular Elite is the Arbiter, but you failed to actually show proof, despite the thread's title. Left-handed? That's all you're going on? I thought I was going to have my mind blown.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Boyle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 Also [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=24636354]what is this[/url]. Its a right hand![/quote] Just gona repeat this so people notice.[/quote] got em.[/quote] i said something about this before. To the majority of people seeing a left hand used would be an eyesore. (example: Playing as Sheva in RE5 or making your person a lefty in unreal tournament III) [Edited on 10.24.2010 7:31 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shade090 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.[/quote] I'm sure he took time away as Supreme Commander of a fleet that is charged with intercepting fleeing human vessels to travel down to the planet and watch another Elite kill a single Spartan.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Boyle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 Also [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=24636354]what is this[/url]. Its a right hand![/quote] Just gona repeat this so people notice.[/quote] got em.[/quote]I'm not talking about Arby primarily holding it in his left. He wielded it with his left in some cutscenes.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] minigyn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UrethaPoptarts The Arbiter was leading the entire fleet that attacked Reach, and then followed The Pillar of Autumn. There is no way a high ranking officer as such would take it upon himself to leave the fleet without command, and go kill a foot soldier.[/quote] thats how the covente work..[/quote] 6 is a primary target. and the elites have a ton of honor. so Thel may have actually gone out of his way to at least watch his death in person.

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  • i think it might be the other guy not the arbiter but interesting point

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonston1343 Also [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=24636354]what is this[/url]. Its a right hand![/quote] Just gona repeat this so people notice.[/quote] got em.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tyno 2025 Arbiter had gold armor and was a ship master. The Zealot that stabbed Six was maroon. [/quote] He's not [i]referring[/i] to that Zealot.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tyno 2025 Arbiter had gold armor and was a ship master. The Zealot that stabbed Six was maroon. [/quote]Wrong elite, again. The elite at the end who's foot is in front of the camera and his sword ignites.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Robot745 He was not a field marshal, he was the leader of the fleet that attacked reach, he was never on land. also that was an engergy daggar like in the assassinations[/quote] he was the one who followed PoA. before he became arbiter, he was a "Gold" elite. he became arbiter because he didn't stop chief from destroying installation 4. EDIT: to close up gaps in my reasoning, I'm referring to the maroon foot that is blocking the cam from seeing N6 head. [Edited on 10.24.2010 7:28 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UrethaPoptarts The Arbiter was leading the entire fleet that attacked Reach, and then followed The Pillar of Autumn. There is no way a high ranking officer as such would take it upon himself to leave the fleet without command, and go kill a foot soldier.[/quote] thats how the covente work..

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tyno 2025 Arbiter had gold armor and was a ship master. The Zealot that stabbed Six was maroon. [/quote] ...this is probably the 20th time this was mentioned... were not talking about that elite... the other one.. you know that one who's foot is covering 6's head

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] yvonaukon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hiterXxX117 i know this is stupid, but look at it from a artistic perspective. The guys who made probably put 6 on the left side of the side by choose or personal preference. it then only make sense to put the sword in the middle of the screen for the effect of despair that you felt when it cut to the helmet. He was probably just an artists who didn't give a damn or know about the "OMG The ONLY LEFT-HANDED ELITE" that was the future arbiter.[/quote]Think again. There's 3 elites in the trilogy that wield an energy sword in their left hand. Thel, Rtas, and A spec ops elite in halo 2. There's something special[/quote] Or maybe you're just overthinking it.

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  • Arbiter had gold armor and was a ship master. The Zealot that stabbed Six was maroon.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Devilmingy2000 Why? It's flimsy evidence at best. On top of that. It's not true. Thel [/quote] Stopped reading there.

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