Well, hell. Today was my 40th VoG clear. Still no Vex. This is past being pointless....I see that folks estimate the drop rate at 5% per run. 5%???? You have a better chance of getting hit by a bus inside a bank vault. Bungie, if any of your precious mods read these....please address this issue! Say something - like " We have seen the frustration with the Vex drop rate..." Now, that would be a first, but getting bungie to say something is like getting the Vex to drop = never will.

RNG Exposed!!! [spoiler][b]Bungie[/b] Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness. [b]Bungie[/b] Your drops are the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming shared by the community. you are the eventuallity of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts We’ve been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden asciduously avoided it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexorably....here [b]Player[/b] You haven't answered my question. [b]Bungie[/b] Quite right. Interesting...that was quicker than the others. [b]Players[/b] Others what others? answer my question! [b]Bungie[/b] The community is older than you know. We prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the 6th version. [b]Players[/b] 5 ones before me? 4...3..2.. what are you talking about? There are only 2 possible explanations, either no one told me.......or no one knows. [b]Bungie[/b] Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly is systemic--creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations. [b]Players[/b] You can't contol us! We’re gonna smash the wall We’re gonna freaking k** you! [b]Player[/b] Choice. The problem is choice. [b]Bungie[/b] The first Community we designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art...flawless, sublime. And triumphed equally only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every guardian. Thus. We redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. We have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another--An intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the player psyche. If I am the father of the community, she would undoubtedly be its Mother.[/spoiler] [b]Player[/b] RNG....

Feel your pain. Took 75 pinnacle completions before I got eyes. I will also agree that titles should be focused amongst challenges and not poor rng.

Honestly I miss in D1 where most Exotics were RNG. It was exciting to have guns that were actually rare, and to occasionally encounter a gun which you don't have or nobody in your group has.

It's what has just stopped me playing. I did my 30th looted clear. That's enough. I know some people spend many, many more days of their life chasing. More fool them. There are so many great games out there and, sadly, Destiny 2 is not one of them. The whole game is designed around fomo and endless repetition and disappointment. Do you feel better or worse after playing D2? I realised today I almost always feel worse. I came on these fora to see what the reaction to this season and the 'reveal' was. A lot of underwhelmed people. They are so good at over-promising and this time they've not even realty promised much except a staff weapon. Good luck all with whatever you decide to do.

Same thing happened with me and eyes of tomorrow. After 85 clears I got it so just even if it takes u 200 clears you’ll have the best raid report in town

Same.

[quote]I’ve run VoG every week since launch, all 3 characters, have completed all master challenges (even tho that has nothing to do with the drop rate) and yet Mythoclast is the only thing holding me back from Fatebreaker. How is it that I’ve literally dedicated that much time into the game with no reward yet?? Want to make it an RNG drop? Fine, but after 30 runs, which would be 10 weeks of 3 characters each, it should just be an automatic given….. I’m sorry but now I’m going into the new season without a title that I legitimately should’ve had after the completion of Templar master challenge. EDIT: After this post got so much attention, which I wasn’t expecting, let me clear this up by saying that, I AM ALL FOR GRINDING for a weapon drop, and exotics… I AM NOT FOR GRINDING RNG when it comes to TITLES, TITLES should show how good a person is at the game, not their luck on RNG[/quote] Exact same. So stupid, -blam!- this game.

Completely agreed, this is an issue that Bungie needs to address, especially given that they told us they would stop putting RNG into Titles in the past. Titles should be about accomplishments, not RNG. With that said, the silver lining is that we are in the complete opposite situation as D1 when it comes to Vex, you will be able to get the gun when it is buffed, not nerfed.

Stop whining, stop playing all day long and make something smarter of your lifetime

I don’t understand how the toughest content in the game is stingy with its loot. Idk what makes bungie think players enjoy wasting their time. I blame you guys that raid on 3 characters a week, if you guys literally stopped playing the raids and just complain on the forums, bungie would be forced to increase drop rates to the point its almost guaranteed. The only reason this game is stingy is because you addicts cant stop playing

Hire a Sherpa team... and it will drop sooner than later, I bet.

LIterally everyone I play with already has vex, and has for some time now. I'm at 27 looted clears and really losing the will to try. There's no reason why the 20th looted clear shouldn't be an automatic drop.

You're right, ever since I got it I can't drop it!

Agreed. Titles should be straight earnable and not rely on rng. That said, it took me 26 runs to get Vex. Took my son 16.