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Edited by Sundown:
8/20/2021 8:22:17 PM
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Anyone notice something wrong with the new bullpup scout rifle?
The mag well is apparently inside of the stock of the gun and there's no possible way that could feed into the chamber for a variety of reasons (and if the chamber were somehow that far back, the gun wouldn't function at all). The front half of the gun looks like an AK franken-gun which is quite cool and then they destroyed my eyes with the mag placement. I'm never going to be able to unsee this.
It's not the first time this has happened, though. Bungie might need to have a word with whoever their weapons consultant is.. or, just get one maybe.
Also, Palindrome is still ejecting shell casings when you shoot it despite it being a revolver.
editing for posterity: Since there seem to be a lot "uR cOmPaRiNg tHe sPaCe MaGiC wIzArD gAmE 2 rEaL lIfE" comments, this isn't about that. It's about art direction. It's the reason we get sets of armor with barnacles or weird mo-cap balls all over them. This is a re-used asset for a reissued weapon, so this issue has clearly been happening for a really long time. There is a crucial failure somewhere along the line where someone is looking at this stuff and saying, "yeah, this looks fine, ship it" and it has been happening for a long time. This is the best time to bring this stuff up because we're going into a new expansion and this is a critical period for their team to re-evaluate what they're doing and feedback is important.
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Theres space magic from a giant ball that brought you back from the dead... To fight time traveling robots.. giant guinea pigs.. big ole bug people that worship worms. And some shady ass 4 arm guys... Your ship travels to another planet as fast as it can get from orbit to the city... And you question mag placement on a gun??
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1 ReplyI mean...you are a little bit late. Thats a season 1 gun model from the dead orbit high impact scout when they won faction rally.
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Some species are active during the day, while other species are only nocturnal. Crocodiles mostly hunt at night, are carnivorous animals and very efficient hunters, with excellent hearing and eyesight.
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2 RepliesThat's not a magazine, it's a little box for storing M&Ms.
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They have always done that. Zhalo supercell was a AK-47 with the mag in the stock and magic bullet teleporting powers
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6 RepliesO…Kay? I had a friend who always complained about that kinda stuff in Destiny. That shit was insufferable. About 4 people actually care.
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Edited by A_Hairy_Gnome: 8/20/2021 9:18:18 PM"Every gun in Destiny is using the Omolon technology that turns bullets into liquid ammo that slowly dissipates as you fire each round. It's the same technology that turns heavy ammo into sword ammo and then from sword to arc bolts in Bolt Caster swords and Temptation's Hook swords. Just imagine that, a heavy ammo brick into a sword that throws arc bolts! It's gotta be Omolon liquid technology!" - The Gunsmith probably
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2 RepliesEdited by X EARTH W0LF X: 8/20/2021 2:08:21 AM95% of the guns in this game couldn't work. Many of them have gas systems that lead nowhere. Some of the revolvers eject empty cases??? (Yes I'm aware there was ONE real-world self ejecting revolver, however it was not reliable and was abandoned early into prototype.) The magazines on all of the bullpups are too far back (where da bolt go?) It's honestly embarrassing to anyone with rudimentary knowledge of how firearms actually work. But hey, Bungie are programmers and not gunsmiths so can you really complain? The only one that truly annoys me is Sturm. It's based on the iconic C96 Mauser "Broomhandle" semi-automatic handgun. Meaning technically it should be classified as a Sidearm alongside all other Semi handguns. But instead it's a Hand cannon; that's fine, nothing big there. But they gave it a detachable magazine, which didn't exist on this model. The only production models of the C96 variant that featured detachable magazines were the M712 Schnellfeuer, which was also a fully-Automatic machine gun. So basically Bungie needs to either make Sturm full auto or start reloading it with stripped clips. The only reason I care so much about this one is I own a real C96 and it's glorious; it deserves better. Rant over.
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4 RepliesWouldn’t be the first.
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Ever see a Revolver spit brass after every shot in real life. Because game designers typically are not gun enthusiasts.
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3 RepliesBungie is full of a bunch of progressives. I wouldn’t expect them to know how a gun works.
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Bruh it obviously loads rounds into the chamber the same way the swords do...
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Distant Relation. Mag too far way from the chamber....seems reasonable given the name.
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Don’t forget the hand cannons that eject spent casings
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2 RepliesYou're noticing this bullpup design flaw... now?
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This is not new. This scout is from vanilla and yes I noticed it as soon as I have it. I was so disgusted I dismantled it at that same moment and never used again.
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I dont bother with this kind of details they arent even noticeable unless you really care about how gun works. To me, as long as the gun look cool, and is good, thats all i need. If you start looking at every d2 weapons i think most of them wouldnt work in real life sooo...meh deal with it. For the armors you are right tough
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Edited by Graz: 8/20/2021 6:48:48 PMyeah why doesnt storm trance look more realistic i saw a guy shatterdive another guy the other day and real life and the game does it no justice my mom taught me how to nova bomb when i was just 6 and trust me it looks nothing like the game they do need to fix some stuff.
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Weapon design has never made since in this game mechanically. HCs reload with bricks instead of individual bullets like they should, things don't line up/would be impractical, etc. The more you start worrying about this stuff the more angry you're going to get at weapons in this game. Bungie's art team has made it pretty clear through their design that they want things to fit a theme and look cool, and that something actually functioning in real life is a very tertiary goal.
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2 RepliesThe gun design in this game is wacky. This game has a certain gun design that identifies a specific archetype as if trying to assist you in identifying each different types of guns. Most Auto rifles look the same, most pulse rifles also looks the same, most scouts looks the same, smgs, handcannons, etc. But sometimes you see a deviation in the design and boom, you kinda scratch your head. Take for example this bullpup scout rifle. This design belongs mostly to the pulse rifle archetypes. Then you have the Bad Juju pulse rifle. Bad Juju is a pulse but it's body is the design body of a scout rifle. There's also the gun called Red Death. This gun is also a pulse rifle but it's body design looks like it belongs to an auto rifle archetype. It's like one team made a gun design and another team made it's function and they completely disregarded where the design archetype belongs to. Weird.
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Remember the Leviathan scout rifle? That was even less probably than this. I hate the Scathelocke weapon art style. I miss Destiny 1's weapon designs with gun-metal grey frames with colored plates, like Doctor Nope or Shadow Price
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Lol! Yeeaahh… I’ve actually built guns with my step dad (he also built a gun range on his property in NC) and I can’t help but laugh when I look too closely at some of the weapons in this and other games. I swear some would just explode or shoot you in the face before actually hitting anything. But it’s all in good fun. 😉
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Zhalo Supercell would like a word…
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Nah man that's a salt canister for when someone kills you with heir aparent
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4 RepliesI made a post about this sort of thing some months back. I know these are weapons from a game about space wizards, etc, but as an ex-infantryman, basic flaws in weapons still bug me.
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You know that's where the mag goes for most scouts, right? Omolon scouts, the conspirator, vision of confluence...
