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8/10/2021 2:25:04 AM
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Why are so many catalysts locked behind ridiculous PVP goals?
Seems every season the seasonal weapon catalyst is locked behind a ridiculous amount of pvp kills with the weapon. I have Cryothesia, Duality, Tommy's matchbook and Witherhoard all incomplete because i can't get kills with them in pvp, I don't like pvp and being forced to get 100-200 kills in pvp is absurd. Why do they do this?
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Don’t pretend that they also don’t have objectives that can be completed in pve. If I’m not mistaken it’s something like 2 out of 6 steps that are pvp objectives.
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1 ReplyOn weapons like Jackrabbit , Vigilance and Mida i think are perfectly fine to only be completed in PvP as they are weapons that should only be used in PvP. Suros Regime however should be also available from PvE activities, but isn’t.
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Bungie does this to keep players in their less populated PvP activities. I'm currently only 50 or so kills from completing my Suros Regime catalyst that I've had forever, and about 80 kills away from Witherhoard being done. Just go into Momentum Control and camp, lurk near capture points as your team takes them.
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3 RepliesN....none of these were hard...
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3 Replies[quote]I don't like pvp and being forced to get 100-200 kills in pvp is absurd. Why do they do this?[/quote] Because bungo hates us. Everyone and their dog are all 'OHMERGERD, PVP IS THE BEST' Shut the -blam!- up you sweaty -blam!-ing tryhards. I play this game with no left hand, I do not want to have to grind out a catalyst in the crucible with you twats.
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Gotta inflate the PVP player stats somehow
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Other than witherhoard I just don’t do those catalysts. Never worth the effort. The side arm is ass, duality meh never liked it, Tommy’s was only useable as a makeshift dps option if the carry player had nothing else and the bow I honestly had to think of what the 4th weapon was cause I didn’t even pick it up from the season pass
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2 Repliesvigilance wing an d mida have '''ridiculous'''' pvp kills , not the seasonal exotics
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I got all the Seasonal Catalyst from playing the included Season or from Exotic Monument and they are more bearable when you get the 4x bonuses early. Tommy Matchbook Catalyst Quest took me two days to complete during this Season but after i done that,i never wanted to use Autos in PvP ever again.
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4 RepliesBecause Bungie is trying to incentivize PVP play, because player numbers are down.
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Non issue
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1 ReplyActing like pvp players enjoy having to play pve for every single meta weapon lol
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1 ReplyI’ll NEVER get the Ticcu’s Divination catalyst done, cus need 50 kills in PVP, been running for hrs several times hip firing with zero hits/kills! So for the first time I’ve actually given up. I hate it when catalyst r related to PVP. But all these weapons - Recluse, Revoker, Luna the grenade launcher (can’t remember the name) what you had to do to get them…. 😥 that was hard as hell, but then PVP was not as bad as it is today.
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3 RepliesI did the exotic quest for The First Curse before Bungie changed the quest. Nothing seems that hard anymore 😂😂😂
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2 RepliesAt Momentum control you can even defeat guardians, with soundless fart. My way to get the crucible parts done
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2 RepliesWhy are pvp players forced to play nightfalls for palindrome when it was a crucible drop in d1? See, it goes both ways.
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6 RepliesEdited by 9Knoxus6: 8/10/2021 8:17:53 PM[quote]Seems every season the seasonal weapon catalyst is locked behind a ridiculous amount of pvp kills with the weapon. I have Cryothesia, Duality, Tommy's matchbook and Witherhoard all incomplete because i can't get kills with them in pvp, I don't like pvp and being forced to get 100-200 kills in pvp is absurd. Why do they do this?[/quote] I got Cryothesia almost the day I started playing this game a month ago but 50 kills in crucible and I can’t even get a kill on a good day. Can’t be done for me.
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14 RepliesYou’re struggling to get kills with a shotgun. You don’t deserve the catalyst then.
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So you're telling me. In order to get all the stuff, you have to do all the things? How crazy. That sounds just like every video game ever made. They really need to stop giving kids participation trophies.
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1 ReplyEdited by Infamous067: 8/10/2021 3:48:13 PMPut a grenade launcher scavenger mod, run up to players like you are using a shotgun, hit them with witherhoard and profit. Its really not that hard. If the direct hit wont kill them then the AOE will. For the other weapons, they are extremely easy to complete. Just equip some unflinching mods and aim targeting mods and watch how easy it is to get kills. getting kills in pvp is easy, its no ones fault but your own that you cant seem to do it.
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9 RepliesYou weren't around for the Luna's/NF questline, it seems. 500 kills total for two hand cannons - not to mention hitting Legend. At least it got easier after Bungie got rid of Comp, and gave us the PvP equivalent of Accident Forgiveness. Diversifying our game play to get a weapon/catalyst actually makes sense. I refuse to play Gambit, but if a questline is locked behind it, I will grumble, I will b*tch, I will whine, but ultimately, I will dive in because I'm a completionist. If you dive into it with friends, the grind tends to go faster - plus, you can always just steal the kills from others. If I'm not mistaken, I think assists still count towards your kill count as well.
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3 Repliesyou cant get kills with witherhoard?
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2 RepliesIsn't Cyro, like, 11 kills..?
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1 ReplyIt’s not an absurd amount at all… lol
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6 RepliesFirst, it’s 50 kills with each weapon. Second, that can be accomplished by brute force. It may not be enjoyable, but is the point “enjoy yourself” or “finish a catalyst?” Just saying. I get that it’s genuinely awful using weapons that are F tier in Crucible like Cryothesia, but it’s still doable if you have a goal in mind. Just gotta do it.
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