I'll buy it just so I can hate it in detail.

Imagine not buying a PVE expansion because pvp is bad 😂 Just remember that when you dont have the new subclass and others do and then you complain about that.

I screen shot your name. Why? Because I’m 95% certain that I’ll see you complain about the witch queen after it is released.

You will buy it anyway.

So you won't buy a major PvE DLC because of PvP(a side mode ) is bad? I hate PvP too,I play it to complete quest /weeklies and it doesn't make me hate the game overall

So, lemme get this straight. You are a pve main, who loves the pve content, complaining about pvp in a pve-centric game that you enjoy, and threatening to quit said game because of the worthless pvp side? Why? Just play pvp as minimally as possible and enjoy the game your way. That’s what I do. It’s simple.

Are you on a next gen console? That matters. I’m on series S and it’s brutal. A buddy told me he thinks next gen Xbox has the toughest matchmaking of any platform now, including pc, and I believe it. My numbers dropped significantly once I went to series s from ps4. Further, the population is so low, and so segregated, that it can’t really support any kind of matchmaking now, skill based or otherwise. You have stadia, steam, old gen Xbox, next gen Xbox, old gen PlayStation and next gen PlayStation. That’s a lot of fragmentation for an already small player base. Crossplay will help, but I agree, a return to sbmm in pubs would be best. Most major shooters use this — destiny is the outlier. And to those who say sbmm was laggy, I’m still seeing just as much lag with CBMM, sometimes even more. So if there’s going to be lag no matter what, might as well make it skill based.

With a K/D that low, even SBMM wouldn’t help you that much.

[quote]I've played Destiny since Christmas of year 1, and bought every expansion since. I won't spend any more money on this game. Why? Its not because PVE isn't great. Things seem to be getting better in all areas. Its not because the game has no story. The story is getting better and better and the voice acting this season was terrific. I could go on for some time about the good things Bungie are doing. BUT PVP is unplayable. I'm just not good enough. Every game I get obliterated. My stats for the last session. 4 matches, 7 kills, 0.28kd. In one of these matches I got 3 kills. The top 2 players on the other side got 35 kills and 30 kills. The 30 kill guy has an elo of 2400, my elo is 530. The next match we get re-matched!!! Frankly this is ridiculous, bordering on abusive, and it has been going on for far too long. The solution is extremely simple. Let guardians choose which matchmaking algorithm they want to use. A player like myself would choose SBMM and be matched against my peers (not that any of them are playing PVP anymore). Better players can choose CBMM. You don't have to split playlists or do anything else. Bungie treat your guardians with respect, even the less talented ones. Give us a place to have fun playing PVP. Let us choose who we want to play against. Lets increase the PVP population and allow less talented guardians to have fun, and have a place to improve. * games played on my xbox account[/quote] I’m in the same position as you. For the life of me I can’t understand why Bungie think players like ourselves will hang around. I for instance have just returned after about 18 months away from the game. I had the time away because frustration with a game I once loved had set in. Frustration with having to try and compete with far superior skilled players. Players whom I have no real right to be trying to compete against. For the “git gud” guardians, I do know my limitations, and any improvements are only minor. I will never be able to match it with the top half of the existing lobbies. But now I’m back……and guess what, it’s almost worse. So I will probably play for a few more weeks and once frustration sets in again……give it away for good. Unless of course miraculously Bungie do as you have suggested and allow players to choose a SBMM or CBMM system.. Maybe if similarly skilled players had a louder voice.?