VOG master is the worst raid in destiny history. I would rather run 10 GMs in a given week than do one master challenge. It’s just not fun.

They need to get rid of the insane amount of power levels people can grind. I think leader board lists someone at 1384. There is no reason for this. I mean 24 hours a day afk in the dungeon relic grinding. Wtf bungie...... Cap power at the 20 plus on the relic so nobody gets higher than 1340. Or just get rid of relic power level grinding. Leaving an open relic power is the worst thing bungie could have done especially with power advantage enabled activities. Build activties around the power cap so everyone can participate and not be left out of at least attempting them each season unless you no life destiny 24/7. Even people that put a reasonable amount of time don't ever reach seasonal cap because of the awful bounty grind. Oh and why do we even have a master mode activity at 1350 that doesn't even drop 1350 weapons? Makes no sense. No end game activity should be higher that the level of gear it can drop.

Don't you feel like using power level to artificially increase difficulty is kind of a cop out though? I don't care either way, raiding is boring af but it seems like power capping pales in comparison to adding actual complexity to encounters.

So get to 1340+ if you want to do Master VOG that badly. Thats like season rank 210 ish. Master VOG is not different than prestige raids back in the day aside from champions.

Just equip lower level gear if you want hard content - problem solved

I think this depends greatly on what happens next season. If VOG stays the same power, but players can get closer/further ahead then it will become easier. This means hardcore players will enjoy their time lost weapons this season and average players will need to wait much longer to get them. I'm in favour of that design, tbh. It avoids locking people out of activities forever (trials) with all the problems that come with that, and still allows those with no self esteem to do the showing off to strangers they so desperately need to do. (Last bit mostly satire. Mostly.)

Agreed, it doesnt make much sense, especially since over time master vog is just going to get easier unless they raise the power, in which case applying contest would just be simpler.

I don't know why they didn't add a cap. They should have capped people at 1330, 20 below like in contest mode. Make it hard and make it so that there are no workarounds to the difficulty. Master VoG as it stands is one of the hardest activities in the whole game, easily tied if not harder than GMs, except GMs have no workaround while Master VoG can be trivialized by... afking shattered throne and grinding repeatable moon bounties for hours on end. Love it when difficulty can be circumvented by xp farming methods which involve either effectively or literally not playing the game. Next paragraph going to sound extremely elitist however I have to speak my mind so be warned. The only merit to having no cap is that it means people who struggle now will have an easier time later in the season when they are levelled up more, but arguably they shouldn't be able to make it easier for themselves. In my opinion it should always be equally as hard for everyone so that the only people who get a clear are the ones who truly deserve it, so that there is absolutely zero room for excuses about "it's catered to streamers!" "only no lifers can play this much!" "not fair for me who plays 2 hours a week to not be able to play!" because everyone is on the same playing field.