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Edited by RideoftheRohirrim:
6/23/2021 11:45:52 PM
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If bosses and enemies get full health after a wipe, give me back the ammo and amount of super I had beforehand.
With the exception of raids and raid encounters where I can rally a flag, the post should be rather self explanatory. If I die in an area where I would wipe but use my ammo and super beforehand and then start that area over I dont get my super and ammo back but the bosses have all their health.
If the boss starts at full health then I should start back at the same amount of ammo.
The presage, for instance. The section after you drop down the hatch from the crushing mechanism (trash compactor) there is a large encounter with ads. I die and wipe, it revives me back to the trash compactor part with no heavy or special and I have to face the screebs again where I am at a significant disadvantage and the chances to wipe again are increased.
Good place to balance the game since Bungie likes to use the term so much.
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Just finished the Master NF - what a grind. No problem Bungie, you definitely made it hard. Here’s the complaint - after spending a lot of time and several players quitting, the reward was a “blue”. Just a blue and….it made me blue. C’mon Man…..
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Absolutely correct. How are we expected to do better with less resources?! We get punished excessively for trying different strats from those on YouTube. An example: was running for the first time Harbinger mission solo, and died in the bosses room, after the second wave. The loadout is already limited cause we have to use at least one weapon for champions, used all my heavy ammo and when I respawned I had no heavy. How am I expected to manage to beat it now that I have even less resources than when I first died?? How is it possible to beat the enemies that I failed to beat at first attempt, using now only primary weapons?? In other gamemodes you get ammo back if you wait a little, but in Harbinger there's no place to hide or time to wait. Only option was exiting and starting over, hoping not to die there anymore. I read people saying that giving you the ammo you had at the checkpoint is "rewarding" a failure, that's laughable. You should be able to try more times in case your strat doesn't work out.
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Sounds great but they designed it so you spend as much time as possible in encounters. It gives the game a false sense of depth because making content is hard.
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Edited by Cpt_Ambel: 6/25/2021 9:00:27 AMOnce again reasonable demand, make the check point work like a "check point". Then I go down to read the inevitable responses from the "elites" of this community banging on about "handouts" and "rewards" for failure, reinforcing their pathetic need to lord their "skills" over other people. Get more hugs from the people who love you, if you have any left.
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2 RepliesI posted this exact same thing last month and got downvoted to hell. This forum is schizophrenic. I agree completely. If I use 3/4 of my heavy getting the boss to half health and I die, why does he get all his health back and I get NONE of my ammo back? It's like, uh, if I couldn't kill him with 7 rockets, why do you think I can do it with 2?
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No, it's called a game don't die...s
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Seriously?
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I did my first solo shattered throne yesterday, and it was so annoying. The bosses were really hard, and part of that was the ammo. Since there are no raid banners, I had times where all I had in the Vorgeth boss fight was Anarchy. That’s not to say Anarchy is not good, but I have another grenade launcher in my kinetic and a shotgun in my special that I need for the adds and wizards that anarchy can’t do
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2 RepliesShoot a witherhoard at their spawn location, switch to ikelos Smg, spawn warmind cell, shoot warmind cell. Profit.
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5 RepliesAnd why does the enemy seems to have infinite ammo. While we have to scavenge from dead enemies. What if we run out and we haven't killed anyone? But the enemy seems to have infinite ammo even if they haven't killed any of us. What kind of trickery is this?
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2 RepliesPresage. There is a cheese for the compactor. Consult the Googles.
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Edited by Corrick II: 6/29/2021 3:04:09 PMIf the walls are getting too close run back and hug the wall that has the door you dropped in. Maybe jumping also helps but you can survive in that spot. My beef with that area is if you die in the next encounter with the waves of adds, it sends you back to the [i]beginning[/i] of the compactor. Like WTF is that all about. Presage is my favorite activity right now but it has some weird design choices.
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3 Replies100% agree, if you wipe at a GM boss encounter, use all 25 of your anarchys, you might as well restart. It would be nice to have a checkpoint system or a set amount you get back (say 1/3 ammo if you have less then). Probably won’t happen though.
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9 Repliesyour just bad
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3 RepliesOff topic but I’ve literally never had a problem killing the screens with primary. May I know what you were using?
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I could agree full ammo for sure. I always wanted a BENEFIT trait for our guardians. Like always having a over shield. It's not that OP just means you will need to be shot like 3 more times lol. Ya know? Something that benefits us, not just some singe burn. Idk just throwing out ideas people
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I like it
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How about just get your light level up Nd use a loadout that works so you wont die so much 🤷♂️
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Yeah, I agree. But it definitely should be the amount of ammo and energy you had when you reached that checkpoint. No more, no less.
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1 ReplyWhat would stop you from wiping on purpose when you use all your heavy and super. Isn’t managing those things the one brain cell required while playing pve? Let’s make an easy game easier good thinking! Veto
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1 ReplyThat sort of removes the punishment from dying though. I'd say change it to spawning with one mag of special & heavy.
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2 RepliesDon't die at the trash compactor 👍
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1 ReplyNot for normal strikes or any NF below Master If you die on a normal strike with full heavy and super and still die, your just bad and no buff can fix noobiness
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1 ReplyNo. Lack of ammo is your punishment for wiping.
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Down voted You have no business wiping in the first place Sorry but only good games are allowed to have logical mechanics
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Yea Bungie!!!! Why should there be consequences for our actions??? Let us all win!!!
