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5/25/2021 8:01:47 AM
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The Vex Mythoclast w/ Catalyst is EXTREMELY underwhelming... Why?!
I have the catalyst completed for it and it is completely underwhelming. It was like they were afraid to make an end game, rare drop, exotic to be somewhat good. All other end game exotics are pretty rad: 1K voices, Anarchy, EOT, etc. Granted, those are heavy weapons, but with something this iconic and unique (an energy, primary ammo fusion rifle), I shouldn't be losing firefights as much as I do with this. Also, any combatant with any kind of armor; forget it. It is way too weak... Knights, Cabal, hell, even major Fanatics take an entire clip... An entire clip to kill a major fanatic??? Seriously?! C'mon... wth is going on??
So many other weapons, even rare ones, are able to kill in pve and pvp faster and from greater distances. That is such a shame... it really is.
I hope Bungie is paying attention to the numbers and will consider giving this even a couple percentage points bump, or it needs some included perk like Subsistence, or I don't know - I'm not a dev. I've been on these forums for years and hardly ever post. It's extremely concerning how disappointing this weapon is...
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Because, Bungie.
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1 ReplyJust be glad it's not Necrocasm, took them 2 years and the end of Destiny 1's life cycle for it to be good lol
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VOG is underwhelming for me. Fatebringer was THE BEST, hands down. No comparison. In D2 it’s going to be just another hc. Sad, Mythoclast was great in pvp. Either exotics are amazing(Anarchy) or they suck(Tarrabah). Most often they seem to suck ass.
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RomulusHook'em Horns - old
[quote]I have the catalyst completed for it and it is completely underwhelming. It was like they were afraid to make an end game, rare drop, exotic to be somewhat good. All other end game exotics are pretty rad: 1K voices, Anarchy, EOT, etc. Granted, those are heavy weapons, but with something this iconic and unique (an energy, primary ammo fusion rifle), I shouldn't be losing firefights as much as I do with this. Also, any combatant with any kind of armor; forget it. It is way too weak... Knights, Cabal, hell, even major Fanatics take an entire clip... An entire clip to kill a major fanatic??? Seriously?! C'mon... wth is going on?? So many other weapons, even rare ones, are able to kill in pve and pvp faster and from greater distances. That is such a shame... it really is. I hope Bungie is paying attention to the numbers and will consider giving this even a couple percentage points bump, or it needs some included perk like Subsistence, or I don't know - I'm not a dev. I've been on these forums for years and hardly ever post. It's extremely concerning how disappointing this weapon is...[/quote] Idk what you mean by EoT is rad, I got it on my first DSC run and have used it twice, and only twice since. -
Edited by DredLaP: 5/27/2021 1:14:58 PMBut videos are saying its the new meta. They couldnt be full of shit could they? I was planning on using vex mytho and fatebringer in trials this weekend. LoL
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4 RepliesSimply put if they made it top tier than 9/10 posts here and tweets they get would be casuals that don't want to or won't raid crying about how good it is and that it's unfair. Imo every single raid exotic should be top tier if it's a pure rng drop
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2 Replieswhy are you complaining? you got the gun.... that many of us probably will not. I don't have it. Don't want it. Don't need it. And it's D2 Vex Mythoclast. Bungie isn't going back to D1's one. Get over it.
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1 ReplyAt least you got the gun
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6 RepliesThat’s Bungie’s motto. Steal from D1 and make it junk.
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It’s basically a high impact AR without the high impact AR range since it drops off at 22 meters. That alone makes the gun kinda shit.
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What does the catalyst do exactly?
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2 RepliesEdited by an Ape with a d2 addiction: 5/26/2021 10:04:38 AMDidnt aztecross test the linear shot damage in pve on his YT video and it basically does the same damage as arbalest per shot? [i]Special weapon damage on primary ammo.[/i] Kill a couple adds, now you have a special ammo's damage potential on a primary for a few shots. You can expend these first when a spot comes in where you'd normally use special ammo, before swapping to your special if still needed. In essence a mechanic that conserves special ammo without sacrificing the damage potential. Catalyst does seem a bit underwhelming. Basically makes the gun more pleasant on normal use while you're on full charges waiting for the special ammo damage needed -situation to come up, where you can then expend the alternate fire charges for the same effect while conserving special ammo itself. For me mythoclast seems pretty well designed overall honestly. Not sure what folks were expecting it to be; another completely busted sandbox breaker till eventually nerfed after outrage -sorta deal? Perpetual special weapon DPS on primary ammo only without any limiters? Would that have been better?
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Even the streamers who usually enthuse about many guns are giving this weapon a resounding 'meh'. I can't see using this when there are better weapons to use in almost every situation imaginable.
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Vex is definitely meh but will at least have the ability to finish fusion bounties/quests and the linear fusion mode does help keep momentum in a fight instead of swapping to a special. It’s okay, but agree it seems quite underwhelming for a raid exotic.
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It’s unique. It’s not meta. Main problem is the 120 meta world we live in. It just has underwhelming range. The catalyst could have done more, but stability is good in pvp if you hold on to your stacks for a little bit more time. But it’s a good weapon overall
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Edited by WulfPak666: 5/26/2021 3:13:44 PMI mean, aside from when Vex Meltyoass was extremely busted ass good in PvP for all of a week in D1, it has always been kind of meh. Especially in D1 when every time they nerfed Fusion Rifles, Vex got slapped by that too. It was never a "meta" gun in pvp or pve. It was just something unique and it sounded amazing. No other gun in Destiny looked like that or did what it did. In complete honesty, D1 Raid Exotics were never all that good, except Touch of Malice. That thing was OP as hell if you used the Titan Bubble strat (which got nerfed) or Devour Warlock. The only Raid exotics I'd consider to be crazy ass good are Anarchy or Outbreak Perfected when the nanites infinitely stacked when you used the pre nerf Lunafaction boots. Maybe 1k when the damage was bugged with higher FPS on PC. And even so, their applications are incredibly specific to get the best out of them. D2's Vex Zap'oclast, from what I've seen, is fine how it is. Look at it. It's basically a solar auto rifle for clearing trash mobs and then it turns into a Linear fusion for the beefier enemies. D1 Vex couldn't do that. In fact, it seems most people are just pissed it can't spawn Warmind cells. 🤷 Enjoy it for what it is, a "unique" gimmick gun. I mean it's basically that Exotic sidearm we got with Saint-14, the one that charges into a Lazer beam only you don't have to get kills to melt ass with that lil pewpew. But I digress... Vex Zap'oclast is even better with those new Titan Boots or on a stasis build. Keep the damage up and zap away.
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Why...it's Bungie, that's why. Ever since the whole recluse, etc. debacle, they design every thing to be mediocre so that the crucible players won't lose their minds when they get killed by it. Not that it matters, they will cry about anything that kills them, no matter the weapon. Until Bungie completely separates the sandboxes, not just sporadically like they have been doing, it will never change.
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After its initial Nerf it was very underwhelming in D1 too
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1 ReplyBungie has proven that Raid exotics will not be T1. It’s solves their must have community problem. They are not going back to D1 with extremely good exotics being hard to obtain. Anarchy is the true outlier.
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It was always lackluster in pve even in D1. It’s only real use was pvp when it was only good because it was legit unmatched in range AND TTK. Idk what you guys expect
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yeah it really needs a higher range stat, it has much less then most 360 autos
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You must have never gotten tarrabah.
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Because of D1 Vex on release. It shredded entire teams. They obviously didn’t want that again.
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Gets Vex on one of his first clears, complains about it. What a good problem to have. You got it though.
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Edited by More Power: 5/27/2021 4:09:14 PMAfter experiencing the rush from clearing dozens of hard mode VoG clears and then finally getting the VM in D1, only to see it destroyed by nerfs soon after, I have no desire to go through all that for the D2 version. Same with every single piece of the once truly great VoG exclusive guns/gear. Total buzzkill...
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3 Replies[quote]I have the catalyst completed for it and it is completely underwhelming. It was like they were afraid to make an end game, rare drop, exotic to be somewhat good. All other end game exotics are pretty rad: 1K voices, Anarchy, EOT, etc. Granted, those are heavy weapons, but with something this iconic and unique (an energy, primary ammo fusion rifle), I shouldn't be losing firefights as much as I do with this. Also, any combatant with any kind of armor; forget it. It is way too weak... Knights, Cabal, hell, even major Fanatics take an entire clip... An entire clip to kill a major fanatic??? Seriously?! C'mon... wth is going on?? So many other weapons, even rare ones, are able to kill in pve and pvp faster and from greater distances. That is such a shame... it really is. I hope Bungie is paying attention to the numbers and will consider giving this even a couple percentage points bump, or it needs some included perk like Subsistence, or I don't know - I'm not a dev. I've been on these forums for years and hardly ever post. It's extremely concerning how disappointing this weapon is...[/quote] Vex in crucible caused it to be nerfed to death. Totally useless after it was touched by a bungle angel
