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Edited by Talk2MeToner:
5/24/2021 11:24:08 PM
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Holy shit does Atheon have everyone salty
Can’t tell you how many groups I joined today that had lost their will to live or full of rage. I understand the frustrations on Atheon but I think people are exaggerating the annoyance on other encounters. I actually welcome the challenge on other encounters but the detain on Atheon is just ridiculous, it’s buggy, the oracles register late, etc. way too much can go wrong for something that is naturally going to have a lot of human error.
My advice to extra frustrated players is just stop trying until next week. They might fix some things with the detain, or at least teams will have it so down by then you might actually complete it. The rest of the raid felt great and the right amount of challenge let’s not hate on every mechanic just because Atheon was a big miss.
Edit: I just beat it and even with a dude who was doing an account recov for someone else it still took a few attempts. I liked their detain strat though. Everyone was just hyper aware, jumped to the back if they had it and the relic holder shot the relic super to break it in 1 hit.
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Seriously people are to bad to do simple mechanics and just automatically blame bungie for it
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2 RepliesLoL the issues with the detainment isn’t on Atheon. It’s on the players awareness. Ppl don’t realize that when he raises his hand that’s the time to look for detainment imminent. And as for Oracles it’s not the encounter either. DO NOT have both players shoot them with primaries. It takes wayyy too long to kill. Even with the Oracle mod. Snipe them or Xeno them. Side note: if you do run Xeno l, also run the Wrath of Rasputin mod. It will create a Warmind cell on the first Oracle, shoot that cell and the other two Oracles will detonate in the correct order. Every single time.
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8 RepliesI've done 6 clears and over 200 attempts of Atheon. It has never once bugged for me. At the point of 200 flawless runs, the statistical likelihood of a bug having even a 2% chance to happen during a run is ridiculously low. This isn't even anecdotal.
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Yea bc people can't work with each other on new systems that all work.
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14 RepliesWe just got our first clear using what is probably going to be know as the stupidest strat ever. Instead of worrying about Detain we just had one of the wellocks grab the relic and back up and then slam the whole group once we were Detained and then finished off damage phase. It made it so stress free I swear to god.
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Atheon lifts his left hand around 16 secs left of vengeance damage phase and shots a flash that is the signal for the detain look at your text. And go away its not super hard
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4 RepliesKilling him with the cheese was fun, though it did not grant me a completion. As a result I'm not sure about Atheon's difficulty, but I think the oracle encounter is a bit much. It's alright doing them in order for the first few, but when it gets up to seven, holy shit did I have to wrack my brain to remember the sequence, all while trying to avoid getting blitzed by the ads. Shit was hectic, though not quite in a good way for a change. Stressed me way the heck out, which shouldn't be the goal of a video game.
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4 RepliesDetain is just players not paying attention to the bottom left corner of the screen. I think the majority of Atheon issues is oracle team mixing up left and right (especially if they are looking at it opposite of outside team) and that things are very buggy re the Aegis
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Edited by Elden Lord Archon: 5/25/2021 5:45:53 AMI mean, the detain is just like Golgoroth hard mode. You need to pay attention if you have it and run away from everyone else. It’s not that complicated.
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There aren't issues with the detain, just issues with player awareness
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12 RepliesEdited by X EARTH W0LF X: 5/24/2021 7:12:17 AMToo many players think they'll walk into a Day 1 challenge and be out in a few hours. This is a 24 hour commitment and if you can't make that kind of commitment, then you're just going to have to accept that you might not get it done. This isn't supposed to be an activity for the average player. This is meant to be a 1 day event set aside during the year where top raiders can go in and display their ability to adapt and learn under pressure. If you didn't beat the day 1, it's not because it was unfair; it's just that you haven't yet gained the skills necessary and you need more practice. I didn't throw the disc into my console and start completing day 1 challenges on my first day; I had to spend years playing the game, learning the way bungie designs raids (their sound queues, usage of visual directing, mastery of core game mechanics). This is the kind of activity that most don't get into until after hundreds of hours of raiding under their belt. I've had a dedicated Day 1 team for the past few raids now and we're really getting a grip on how we play together.
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2 Replies[quote]Can’t tell you how many groups I joined today that had lost their will to live or full of rage. [/quote] So, exactly how it was in D1 before everyone and their Moma just insta killed Atheon with Gally? 🤷
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Oh yea, just try next week when we can’t get the raid ring anymore
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1 ReplyEdited by Lateralus: 5/24/2021 9:26:43 PMHe's not even hard unless you're trash at the game.
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I want to try and double slug atheon, cause lol double slug anarchy go [i]brrrt[/i]
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3 RepliesGranted I haven't finished Atheon I have been busy and had limited time last night to beat it but I plan on completing it tonight. But this raid is not bad at all from everything I have done so far. Yea its not copy pasta OG VoG. But did we really want that? If people are losing their minds over this raid they clearly never did Last Wish, Crown, or Spire. I think most people are just mad that their nostalgia pickle wasn't tickled and contest mode put a lot of people down in to the dirt. As far as difficulty this raid is Mid at best. Take a breath its not even been out a week yet.
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1 ReplyThe thing is the raid is easy all the way through. Atheon is no exception as the only thing that I can say thats hard about Atheon is the annoying Supplicants that can one shot.
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Not once in my experience detain was bugged and I have a lot of pulls on him. To be honest if someone tells me "detain bugged" sounds like he snoozed.
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His throne isn't vex milk glass........it's the shiny salt from all those tears. Atheon. Salt Mines Conflux x)
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1 ReplyEdited by Jebus Kreist: 5/24/2021 10:23:50 AMI beat VOG on Contest mode and got the Emblem. Atheon is probably the most defining example of Bungie relying on shit mechanics-heavy nonsense instead of actual difficulty. The rest of the raid was fine and the addition of oracle-order was a good change. But Atheon is soul-crushingly bad. So much stupid and unnecessary changes for no explicit reason other than for the sake of doing it. I despise this raid now and the only thing left for me to get is the mythoclast and finish the armour sets for transmog if I ever feel like using mediocre D1 aesthetic. [spoiler]And I liked how Atheon was vulnerable the entire fight in D1. The "Time's Vengeance" buff just let you do real damage to him. Now it's just a damage-phase timer that shows up on everyone's screen. He's invulnerable and you still do the same damage during the phase with or without the buff (eg dying and getting revived).[/spoiler] [spoiler]The addition of contest mode to Destiny I've also 180'd my opinion on and now absolutely hate. It's the most artificial of artificial difficulty to try making things "hard"... but instead just makes them tedious. Just like Grandmaster Nightfalls.[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesI love the new encounter design
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Edited by Veldrin: 5/24/2021 8:41:08 PMI never played D1, so I can't compare the original VOG with the re-issued one. All I can say it's fun to me. The oracles sounded annoying at first, but with some practice I think it's doable. Everything else in this raid is kinda easy to understand in comparison to every other raid in D2. I think the only really difficult part is the oracles x7 when you are the only one to do them, but you can just share this task to more than one person to make it easier. I like the raid, but as I said I never played D1.
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Wrong, not Atheon. Whoever tough of the oracle sequence... x3... to reach a damage phase, that's the one who pissed off players. Atheon just doin VoG boss things. Can't wait for the heroic version, 2x Atheon with triple fire rate and 6x sequence with all 6 oracles 🙃
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2 RepliesOnce everyone is on the same page and understands what to do it is a very simple fight.
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I can't express enough how grateful I am to have a clan to do this with. LFG must be the worst since Aksis challenge.
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5 Replies[quote]Can’t tell you how many groups I joined today that had lost their will to live or full of rage. I understand the frustrations on Atheon but I think people are exaggerating the annoyance on other encounters. I actually welcome the challenge on other encounters but the detain on Atheon is just ridiculous, it’s buggy, the oracles register late, etc. way too much can go wrong for something that is naturally going to have a lot of human error. My advice to extra frustrated players is just stop trying until next week. They might fix some things with the detain, or at least teams will have it so down by then you might actually complete it. The rest of the raid felt great and the right amount of challenge let’s not hate on every mechanic just because Atheon was a big miss.[/quote] I beat it..wasnt hard. And i sux soooooooo.?
