Don’t worry...I’ll put the leaked stuff and stuff that might happen in spoiler brackets.
I believe ever since we heard Sagira had died that Osiris would either become corrupted by the Darkness or would have a major conflict with Savathûn this year.
I believe Osiris is either corrupted by Savathûn or Savathûn is portraying herself as Osiris.
Season of the Hunt:
1) We never saw Sagira die.
2) Savathûn is the goddess of trickery. I think she lured us into the Hellmouth to ‘save’ ‘Osiris’. I don’t think that was even Osiris tbh. She did it to gain our trust. We know she’s already in cahoots with the Hive there.
3) The way Osiris says Xivu Arath is doing what Savathûn did in the Dreaming City. “Does she have no ambition of her own?” Kinda sounds like an angry sibling talking.
4) When we kill the Celebrant. Osiris asks “how did you do that?” Kinda sounded like her trying to learn from someone else’s mistakes.
Season of the Chosen:
1) The lore tabs. They didn’t sound like Osiris. Hell, even Saint-14 says this. He tells Osiris about Guardians torturing guardians in Trials of Osiris. He tells Saint to take notes. ‘Osiris’ didn’t care.
2) Why in the absolute hell would anyone want to bring the Crown of Sorrow to the City?
3) in the seasonal activity, Amanda even notices Osiris not talking like he used to or taking interest in things of importance. This may be because the loss of Sagira if she truly did die, but Osiris is too wise.
Season of the Splicer:
1) Isn’t it odd that when Quria shows up and there’s all these Vex problems, he suddenly doesn’t know what to do?
2) Isn’t it also kinda coincidental that after Ikora and him have the plan to look for Mithrax, his life is in danger? Like Mithrax is supposedly the ONLY person to know how to do this stuff and now suddenly the Vex are all over him. Without him, we’d have no idea Quria was even involved. And without knowing Quria was involved, we wouldn’t know Savathûn was involved.
3) in a dialogue section, Osiris uses the phrase “they” we referring to humanity. Not “we” or “our people”. The way he also talked after the weekly mission this week. “Interesting” he said. Almost like he tried having Mithrax and Saint-14 fight but didn’t know there’d be somewhat of a resolution between the two.
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4) We know Osiris is going to go missing after this season according to coding
5) Lackshmi-2 has heard Savathûn’s song meaning she has already infiltrated the City. Others have heard it too. Crow, Osiris, Eris, Shaxx, Drifter, and presumably Ikora and Saint. [/spoiler]
Witch Queen leaks:
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1) Osiris has been captured supposedly by Savathûn and says she’ll free him if we rid her of her worm
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Take from the Witch Queen leaks as you will, but according to those leaks, whoever posted it has been right for Season of the Hunt content, Season of the Chosen content, AND Season of the Splicer content.
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1 ReplyHonestly I’m just waiting for the savathûn rule 34 to start appearing
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weirdest thing to me is how osiris talks to saint now :(
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2 RepliesI’ll be so happy if they just kill off Savathun in witchqueeen. Just out of nowhere she gets offed.
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1 ReplyIn the new override mission, there's dialogue from Osiris saying something along the lines of: "Like the human mind, it can be manipulated". Major red flags popping up.
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There’s something going on with him that’s for sure. The Empty Vessel weapon Lore tab just does not sound like Osiris at all Especially when he’s whispering in Lord Saladins ear that some people think he ordered the assassination attempt on Zavala and asking that Saladin don’t request to be a part of Zavala’s inner circle Just screams out manipulation, lies and half truths. Tin foil hat is firmly on
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1 Reply% Imagine this is just another ruse by Savathun and Bungie makes a lore book about how people are taking Osiris's grief for Sagira and turning it into something darker %
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1 ReplyWell put together. I’ll certainly be looking for more proof.
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Order 66...
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The more I hear about Savathûn the more I have come to believe that the true gist of her powers is this: She derives paracausal power from living rent-free in people's heads...
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You know ive been speculating that the guardians and the witch queen will team up to fight the darkness for over a yeqr and people laughed at me but if you read the books of sharrow you can tell that the witch queen hates the darkness and just wants to get rid of it just like us
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3 RepliesIts not Osiris you want to be worried about. I reckon Savathun has taken charge of development at Bungie. Its the only real explanation.
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3 RepliesEdited by Bore: 5/21/2021 1:46:53 PMIsn’t there a lore tab this season that says savathun is in the city and then lists some clues to who she is? Edit: this one https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/vii-ripe
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3 RepliesEdited by WizardWolf: 5/20/2021 5:39:20 PMTheres one thing though, in the presage mission. The boss (forget his name) speaks in the voice of Sagira at one part. The boss speaks "the voices of the dead" so that would mean that Sagira really is dead.
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7 RepliesEdited by OhtheHugeManity5: 5/20/2021 11:43:46 AMWhat if that leak about Witch Queen was actually made by Savathun to trick us?!? Shock!?? Gasp!!!! [spoiler] No really though, not sure if it is legit or not, but if it is I have more fuel to add to the fire? Remember Hawkmoon's lore tab where Savathun is watching you and Crow having a cracking time? It would make sense if she was doing it through the two of you's great pal Osiris. Also... God of Trickery: "Get rid of my worm and I'll totally return Osiris to you." Us: "Okay, I believe you".[/spoiler]!?!?
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1 ReplyEdited by YATM: 5/21/2021 3:16:13 AMShaxx and Crow have also whistled her song. Most of what you believe comes straight from the data leak. Byf talks about how many characters have been exposed to her song as well. Savathun is among us.
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Lore tab on Stochastic Variable. The new FWC submachine gun. Stochastic Variable "However certain we are of our simulations, they always contain an element of unpredictability." —Lakshmi-2 Lakshmi-2 : faction head : Exo : politician 1 : the Eliksni Quarter : screaming : a crackling portal : treachery : Fallen attack : we're being overrun : where are the Guardians— 2 : the Last City : the Tower in ruins : Fallen scavengers sift the rubble— 3 : the Last City : radioactive dust : Dark growths in the ruins: where is the Traveler : mutated Ghosts— 4 : the Eliksni Quarter : a crackling portal : Asher speaks : Fallen being attacked : Dead Orbit overhead : Saint-14 besieged : FWC surrenders— 5 : the Eliksni Quarter : the Endless Night : a crackling portal : Mithrax firing wildly : the Cult flees : Ikora triumphant— 6 : the Eliksni Quarter : a crackling portal : snipers fire down : blood runs in the gutter : an Ether tank explodes : the Endless Night : Asher speaks : those FWC traitors— 7 : the Botza District : a crackling portal : Fallen flee : FWC banners : Zavala is gone : Mithrax on trial : Lakshmi-2 looks over the crowd— Lakshmi-2 : head of state : Exo : prophet : savior
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What's with worms
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1 ReplyFor the first time in Destiny history I'm actively avoiding leaks. I am so hyped for this next expansion for story alone. With that said, based on everything before your leak section that I'm so happy you put behind a spoiler box, you had me at bringing the Crown of Sorrow to the city. What kind of dumbass decision is that. He sus.
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Wow cant disagree with that much evidence!
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1 ReplyA question I have is why was Savathun (Osiris) interested in bringing Crow to the city?
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1 ReplyCan you explain the rid her of her worm part?
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3 RepliesTheres definitely something fishy going on. We know that Saint and Osiris are partners - but they don't act it. In the latest dialogue between Saint, Mithrax and Osiris. Saint calls Osiris out (apologies, cant remember the exact phrase) and Osiris doesn't reply or care. If this was a relationship between two people, there would be some form of reply or scalding from Osiris. In general I like the theory. And agreed. We never saw the outcome of Sagira's demise. And tbh. I feel like Osiris as a character wouldn't put her in that position, and she would be smart enough to also not put herself in that position. Definitely builds a lot more interesting. Far more than Beyond Light IMO.
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3 RepliesI like it but am hesitant that this will be the case. Sorta feel like Savathun is about to “lose it”. Seems to me she’s gonna drop the shifty approach and target us directly here shortly. Or wait around for her sister to deal with us for her since Oryx failed.
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if this is true, i hope there’s a way to save osiris. otherwise i’m going to be upsetti spaghetti 😠
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1 ReplyThere’s also the fact that at the end of an override mission ikora says “plotting again r we” as a joke n Osiris goes “pardon” as if he was startled like he though ikora was onto him or more so savathun